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well...no, we disagree (which is fine)

December 08, 2016 04:23AM
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you've seemed to hold back on the "Fisher is done" opinions up to now.
With this info, have you changed your mind? Do you think he's gone at the end of the year?
Just asking your opinion.

Well one or the other, Fisher or Snead, are gone, and possibly both. Unless they fix the relationships (which is not impossible). Fisher could stay with a new coordinator, I think.

BUT right now we don't know which it will be. I don't even know which is more likely.

Doesn't matter to me, honestly. No matter who the coach is, their fate depends on how advanced Goff is next year. I thought most of the complaints about Fisher just plain ignored the qb situation. But then a new coach might be fine, if they don't feel compelled to "rebuild" (and my view is that there is no need for that...this team needs talent here and there, like at DE, but its fate depends upon Goff and the rapidity of his development).

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Should Fisher stay the Rams absolutely positively MUST make him hire an innovative and aggressive OC.
A very similar Situation like the one back before 99 with Vermeil in that regard.
A Fisher-Williams-Martz (for example) Coaching staff would be really interesting to see.



Go Rams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well it's fine but we don't agree, really.

To me you NEVER make a coach hire a coordinator you have in mind. That's never good management. And for the record, no that is not what Shaw did in 99.

ANd there is absolutely nothing wrong with the offensive PHILOSOPHY. I don't think "more aggressive" means anything---it's just one possible philosophy among others than can work, but then why would you force a coach to do something other than what he wants? That again is bad management.

I don't, won't, and never will buy the idea that the "problem" was "philosophy." Every year there are teams that thrive with the Rams approach---run, ball control passing, set up and take shots. The problem was NEVER the philosophy, it was always a combination of personnel and execution (including injuries under "personnel" ).

You can always count on this from me: I never buy the idea that there's just one offensive approach that wins. Many different offensive approaches win, if they have the personnel and execute.

Look at Dallas. Do you think they're winning because they are "aggressive" passing the ball? No way. They are 31st in passing attempts and 1st in rushing attempts. If anything Dallas is FAR more conservative than Fisher usually is.

So again no big deal but actually no we disagree.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/08/2016 04:24AM by zn.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  MMQB: Fisher-Snead relationship is toxic.

max1940December 07, 2016 10:16PM

  Not surprised. Losing does that.

RockRam571December 07, 2016 10:40PM

  What I want to see happen......

NewMexicoRam839December 08, 2016 03:53AM

  Re: MMQB: Fisher-Snead relationship is toxic.

poplarbluffman729December 08, 2016 01:14AM

  One of the poorest written

CROMWELL21676December 08, 2016 01:31AM

  not so

zn794December 08, 2016 02:27AM

  Re: not so

CROMWELL21497December 08, 2016 02:35AM

  Breer is quoting sources inside Rams Park.

max703December 08, 2016 02:41AM

  Re: not so

zn482December 08, 2016 02:46AM

  That being the case, zn....

NewMexicoRam544December 08, 2016 03:56AM

  IMO

zn745December 08, 2016 04:10AM

  We are 2 for 2 today, zn

dodgerram489December 08, 2016 04:15AM

  well...no, we disagree (which is fine)

zn534December 08, 2016 04:23AM

  Okay, 1-2 ain´t so bad either for one day

dodgerram391December 08, 2016 04:34AM

  Re: Okay, 1-2 ain´t so bad either for one day

zn312December 08, 2016 04:49AM

  Re: Okay, 1-2 ain´t so bad either for one day

dodgerram364December 08, 2016 05:20AM

  @ Cromewell 21 - 2nd year team option nm

ferragamo79535December 08, 2016 07:46AM

  Re: @ Cromwell 21 - Thanks bro! nm

CROMWELL21356December 08, 2016 11:06AM

  I can answer your legal question

stlramz1111December 08, 2016 07:36PM

  are these billable hours?

21Dog494December 08, 2016 07:54PM

  Re: So what if they make up and get along?

Speed_Kills571December 08, 2016 03:32AM

  this quote...

LMU93548December 08, 2016 04:02AM

  Re: this quote...

zn650December 08, 2016 04:15AM

  Re: this quote...

dzrams468December 08, 2016 07:52AM

  Re: this quote...

zn496December 08, 2016 04:41PM

  Time to clean house

BigGame81511December 08, 2016 04:19AM

  as a great man once said.....

LMU93405December 08, 2016 05:23AM

  Re: as a great man once said.....

oldschoolramfan363December 08, 2016 05:35AM

  Fisher has final word so isn't he taking the blame here not dumping it on Snead

LesBaker411December 08, 2016 06:42AM

  Re: Fisher has final word so isn't he taking the blame here not dumping it on Snead

Zooey496December 08, 2016 07:41AM

  Re: I thought Hard Knocks was telling

BigGame81831December 08, 2016 07:44AM

  Was going to say the same thing

promomasterj435December 08, 2016 07:49AM

  Re: Was going to say the same thing

Zooey404December 08, 2016 08:15AM

  Fisher saying he didn't know about the extension

LesBaker376December 08, 2016 08:37AM

  Re: Fisher swaying he didn't know about the extension

Zooey411December 08, 2016 09:08AM

  I edited my post title and deleted the W

LesBaker279December 08, 2016 09:23AM

  GM's are prominent in the other Hard Knocks seasons

promomasterj359December 08, 2016 10:53AM

  If you are or aren't remembering right I am not sure it's meaningful

LesBaker436December 08, 2016 11:53AM

  Who would have gained ANYTHING from keeping Snead off the show?

Zooey420December 08, 2016 12:47PM

  Snead's dignity LOL

LesBaker408December 08, 2016 01:55PM

  Kroenke didn't 'orchestrate' Hard Knocks

promomasterj338December 08, 2016 02:20PM

  Re: Kroenke didn't 'orchestrate' Hard Knocks

Zooey403December 08, 2016 02:29PM

  It all goes back to MMQB article

promomasterj401December 08, 2016 03:47PM

  To Rift, or not to Rift

Zooey352December 08, 2016 04:48PM

  To sleep perchance to dream

LesBaker410December 08, 2016 06:02PM

  Neither was Hekker I've heard

LesBaker367December 08, 2016 08:36AM

  this team is a frickin MESS

ferragamo79445December 08, 2016 07:48AM

  it seems a bit over the top

PHDram378December 08, 2016 08:01AM

  Re: it seems a bit over the top

BigGame81398December 08, 2016 08:35AM

  i dont

PHDram513December 08, 2016 08:44AM

  I have to agree...

Guard403December 08, 2016 10:02AM

  Explains the short sightings in summer

Anonymous User395December 08, 2016 10:17AM

  Re: Explains the short sightings in summer

Zooey364December 08, 2016 10:30AM

  Re: Explains the short sightings in summer

zn407December 08, 2016 01:45PM

  LOL (nm)

Zooey258December 08, 2016 02:22PM

  LOL - that's all I meant!!!!

Anonymous User355December 08, 2016 08:16PM

  Re: MMQB: Fisher-Snead relationship is ... missing the core...

Ramdom491December 08, 2016 05:34PM

  Demoff is a bean counter

Zooey539December 08, 2016 05:43PM

  You may be wrong Zooey

waterfield370December 08, 2016 08:06PM

  But I'm not. Here is the FO structure

Zooey396December 08, 2016 08:29PM

  Re: You may be wrong Zooey

zn358December 08, 2016 08:44PM

  Too gossipy, not enough substance

9er8er389December 08, 2016 06:55PM

  Evidently not much truth either, these kinds of articles are what's toxic

LesBaker433December 09, 2016 05:51AM

  Re: Too many assumptions not enough facts...

laram517December 09, 2016 06:06AM

  Offensive coaching is the problem

Rams_81603December 09, 2016 06:03AM