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Re: You can't sit rookies in the modern cap age

November 02, 2016 01:14PM
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promomasterj
It's just not feasible. These rookies are on a ticking clock, you likely need 3 years of film to assess if you have the guy that's worth committing to long term. Even then you may get it wrong. Colin Kapernick? By the end of year 3 you're already under pressure to extend the 5th year option or go for a long term deal. You don't have the luxury to let a QB sit - when he is cheap, he needs reps so that by year 3, he's got 2 years of experience and you've got another year or 2 of high level discount play (Russell Wilson). Then your salary cap dollars can be used on the team around him. I'm not saying Goff is ready to play now, I'm saying if a guy's coming out of college not ready to play pro ball - don't draft him #1 and give up a king's ransom to get him.

All of the cases of QB's sitting are from a decade ago or more. Who's the last successful QB who sat his entire rookie season, not counting guys like Rogers who were sitting behind hall of famers?

I think its time to start him also, but as to your point about the salary cap, actually its the opposite with the new CBA as opposed to a few years ago...before the latest CBA highly drafted rookies came in making way too much money and teams were more likely to start getting their monies worth as soon as possible. now its much easier to let them develop ...yes, it'd be great if they came in ready to roll while making less money, but its much easier to let them develop if needed.



I would like to see him out there after what we saw with case and the 4int day he had, but if he's not ready, he's not ready....I don't think Fish would just let him sit if he thought he was.

Paxton Lynch came from a similar type system, was also a first rounder and reports are that he is no where near ready this year and that is with a very good coaching staff in Denver.

People seem to forget that the other rookies(Dak and Carson) in this years draft were all expected to sit, its only by injuries and trade that they are playing this year.



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  Re: Not starting Jared Goff ....

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  Re: Definitely quit running in the Giants game

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  Absolutely

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  Re: Not starting Jared Goff ....

BumRap427October 31, 2016 06:16PM

  Re: Not starting Jared Goff ....

zn431October 31, 2016 06:21PM

  You can't sit rookies in the modern cap age

promomasterj380November 01, 2016 09:48AM

  modern cap era started in 94

zn333November 01, 2016 05:58PM

  that was 23 years ago

ferragamo79349November 01, 2016 06:17PM

  and that makes no difference

zn464November 01, 2016 06:54PM

  jst saying in today's NFL

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  and yet

zn345November 02, 2016 10:21AM

  Are we not in rebuilding mode?

promomasterj355November 02, 2016 11:50AM

  Re: Are we not in rebuilding mode?

zn367November 02, 2016 11:57AM

  Sitting is worse cause you lose evaluation time

promomasterj311November 02, 2016 12:00PM

  Re: Sitting is worse cause you lose evaluation time

zn322November 02, 2016 12:06PM

  Should have clarified - Rookie scale era

promomasterj437November 02, 2016 09:09AM

  Re: Should have clarified - Rookie scale era

zn338November 02, 2016 09:14AM

  You have 4 years and must elect a fifth

promomasterj591November 02, 2016 11:49AM

  Re: You have 4 years and must elect a fifth

zn359November 02, 2016 12:01PM

  Tannehill, Bortles, Kapernick

promomasterj628November 02, 2016 12:40PM

  2 examples?

zn419November 02, 2016 03:40PM

  Which ones sat?

promomasterj321November 02, 2016 04:11PM

  Re: Which ones sat?

zn321November 02, 2016 04:18PM

  A right margin dragger? Pot meet kettle

promomasterj246November 02, 2016 04:21PM

  Re: A right margin dragger? Pot meet kettle

zn362November 02, 2016 04:34PM

  You win. Margin further to the right

promomasterj325November 03, 2016 09:05AM

  Re: You can't sit rookies in the modern cap age

Rampage2K-518November 02, 2016 01:14PM

  Lets talk about the QB's drafted high and how they have done in the NFL when starting right away

LesBaker447November 03, 2016 04:47AM

  Re: Not starting Jared Goff ....Not sure what you are trying to counter

BumRap374November 01, 2016 07:37PM

  Not sure what you are trying to counter? I'm countering what you're saying

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  If it's Jeff's way then it's the wrong way

promomasterj324November 02, 2016 04:20PM

  if you followed what I said

zn335November 03, 2016 01:32PM

  Re: Not starting Jared Goff ....

poplarbluffman417November 02, 2016 02:48AM

  Re: Not starting Jared Goff ....

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  Re: Not starting Jared Goff ....

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zn479November 02, 2016 04:56AM

  It 'worked' the other way in history - ancient history

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  Re: It 'worked' the other way in history - ancient history

zn486November 02, 2016 02:40PM

  The only one who had nothing in front of him was Carr

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  Re: The only one who had nothing in front of him was Carr

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  I would flip it....it has been successful

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  Dick Vermeil

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