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Re: Well, look. I agree that we're all just guessing on a lot.

October 07, 2016 03:27PM
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Saguaro
The hard data that we have is that our offense doesn't measure very well against other NFL offenses.

Is it lack of talent?
Is it poor scheme?
Is it a complicated, but good scheme, that will yield good results when the team finally gets it?
Is it a poor fit between talent and scheme?
Is it poor teaching?

Some combination of some or all of those things?

Does any of that have anything to do with Goff not being ready game 1, or is that just on him, or just on the Bear Raid being so different?

Lots of questions I won't pretend to KNOW the answers to. I really just want to see it get better.

In the meantime, I look for clues and I like to discuss them.

That one about Coty Sensabaugh calling out the offensive plays before the ball was snapped in OTA's was...interesting.
The way that the lousy 49ers seemed to know every play that we called in game 1 was dismaying.

What's happened since then is a little better, but not great.

I don't think your questions are the only ones possible and in fact I think if you limit yourself to those questions (and assumptions) you;re bound not to get very good answers because you will narrow the range of what is looked at.

Every single one of your questions assumes things are bad and that the badness has to be explained.

What if you saw something different in the first place and began with different assumptions. Your questions in general assume that they are the same team that played SF and the SF game becomes this huge traumatic haunting presence that defines them. I think differently about that. I think for many reasons and on many levels the SF game was a wake-up call and they changed both after it and because of it.

In which case, constantly factoring in the numbers or assumptions from the SF game doesn't get us a good clear picture of the Rams.

One good example of that is third down on offense. In the last 3 games they were 21st in 3rd down conversions. That's against the 2, 8th, and 15th ranked defenses.

And...I don't buy for a second that the scheme is "complicated" (and what would that even MEAN?) ... that;s a groundless assertion put out there by one writer who based it, near as we can tell he based it on anything, on misundersting something Keenum said.

Keenum said the team is learning a new offense. And btw learning a new offense always takes time. In fact they did look more out of sync than you would expect the first couple of games---and that reminds me of when they looked out of sync to start 2011 and to start 2012.

So a fair question would be: How much did changing the offense slow them down to start with and how fast can they get up to speed?

And other things. If the SF defense actually could figure out the plays in advance why didn't it benefit other teams? I mean, the Rams won 2 games in a row on the road coming from behind in both cases. That was against the 15th and 8th ranked defenses. But THEY (Tampa and Arz) didn't know what one SF player said THEY (SF) knew? Why not? cool smiley
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  Jared Goff sits, while Carson Wentz stars: What gives?

RamBill813October 07, 2016 04:36AM

  This is the best part....

max586October 07, 2016 05:06AM

  Uh, yeah. The part about Rams' offense was disturbing.

Saguaro405October 07, 2016 05:19AM

  Re: Uh, yeah. The part about Rams' offense was disturbing.

Rams43309October 07, 2016 07:16AM

  coaching cocktail

PHDram379October 07, 2016 07:43AM

  Re: coaching cocktail

zn365October 07, 2016 07:56AM

  So are you saying that.......

LesBaker424October 07, 2016 08:10AM

  Re: coaching cocktail

Rams43475October 07, 2016 08:29AM

  Great post, 43!

max374October 07, 2016 08:40AM

  I agree. Good on 43. nm

Saguaro313October 07, 2016 09:19AM

  no one denies that the rams offense needs to improve

PHDram406October 07, 2016 09:25AM

  Well, he interviewed Case Keenum.

Saguaro501October 07, 2016 09:19AM

  Re: Well said, Sag

max378October 07, 2016 09:26AM

  Oh really?

PHDram354October 07, 2016 09:34AM

  Yeah, really..

max322October 07, 2016 10:38AM

  good judgement.

PHDram358October 07, 2016 11:07AM

  posting always goes south when the word "agenda" comes up

zn320October 07, 2016 10:56AM

  lol..its all good!

PHDram320October 07, 2016 11:43AM

  i have no problem with his quote

PHDram453October 07, 2016 09:27AM

  Where do you get this?

Saguaro345October 07, 2016 09:36AM

  Re: Where do you get this?

PHDram449October 07, 2016 09:53AM

  Well, look. I agree that we're all just guessing on a lot.

Saguaro314October 07, 2016 10:05AM

  pretty much agree with everything

PHDram402October 07, 2016 10:56AM

  Re: Well, look. I agree that we're all just guessing on a lot.

zn320October 07, 2016 03:27PM

  Re: Where do you get this?

zn452October 07, 2016 10:28AM