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September 07, 2016 02:09PM
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PHDram
a traditional nickel package is with five defensive backs instead of the four featured in base defenses. Typically, an extra corner will come on to replace a linebacker and will align in the slot to match up with a receiver or tight end. My understanding of the big nickel is that an extra safety who acts as a hybrid linebacker/cornerback replaces the cb.

It was my understanding that is what the author said.

Your description in the first paragraph is right. But the author said

"Last year, defensive coordinator Gregg Williams often ran what some would call "big nickel." It's a 4-2-5 set, though what made it "big" was Mark Barron -- listed at 6-foot-2, 213 pounds -- playing a hybrid position that had him both helping out in coverage and rushing the passer. With Joyner in the game, however, it appears the Rams would run more of a traditional nickel package. Barron and Alec Ogletree would be the two linebackers and Joyner would be the third cornerback, along with Trumaine Johnson and E.J. Gaines, who might miss the Week 1 opener with a quad injury. Maurice Alexander and T.J. McDonald would thus be the two safeties."



Here is what the base was last year after AO was hurt
DE-DT-DT-DE
Ayers (Sam); JL (Mike) Barron (WILL)
CB-SS-FS-CB

So, it was not a nickle, Barron wasn't a safety in the slot, he was a safety playing a different position, WILL

Here is what was nickle
DE-DT-DT-DE
JL-Barron
CB-Joyner-SS-FS-CB

That is what the author is calling "Big nickle"

It's not, it's just nickle, with Barron playing one of the LBer spots.

What the author MAY be referring to is when they went 33 Nickel
DE-DT-DE
JL, Barron
CB-Joyner-SS-FS-CB

Barron, in that case, could blitz or cover, but the author specifically mentioned the 4-2-5 nickle


Bottom line is the nickle package aligns differently than the base.

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  How Fisher made sense out of nickel role to Lamarcus Joyner

RamBill1283September 07, 2016 04:24AM

  Joyner played 8th most defensive snaps in 2015

LMU93993September 07, 2016 04:46AM

  Exactly...

Ramsfsninmd567September 07, 2016 05:12AM

  Re: Joyner isn't that good

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  I did!

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  We passed on Allen Robinson to take Joyner.

max525September 07, 2016 02:00PM

  Re: We passed on Allen Robinson to take Joyner.

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  Fisher blew smoke up his butt instead

9er8er418September 07, 2016 05:48PM

  We'll see what he really thinks..

sstrams457September 07, 2016 05:28AM

  Re: We'll see what he really thinks..

SoCalRAMatic377September 07, 2016 06:12AM

  Re: We'll see what he really thinks..

SoCalRAMatic485September 07, 2016 06:48AM

  Oops

Blue and Gold498September 07, 2016 08:08AM

  Re: Oops

laram479September 07, 2016 09:51AM

  not sure i follow

PHDram498September 07, 2016 10:00AM

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Blue and Gold436September 07, 2016 02:09PM

  Re: not sure i follow

AlbaNY_Ram585September 07, 2016 05:33PM

  yes, sorry

Blue and Gold471September 07, 2016 05:37PM

  here is a different look Attachments

Blue and Gold437September 07, 2016 05:54PM

  Two examples Attachments

Blue and Gold556September 07, 2016 02:14PM

  nickel Attachments

Blue and Gold413September 07, 2016 02:25PM

  Two examples... Great Still shots as always B&G thanks!

Anonymous User518September 07, 2016 03:45PM

  thanks

Blue and Gold378September 07, 2016 04:49PM

  Here is 2009, when Dahl would play LBer in nickel Attachments

Blue and Gold370September 07, 2016 05:02PM

  One more variation from 2009 Attachments

Blue and Gold417September 07, 2016 05:23PM

  I don't think we've heard the end of this story....

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