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Re: so that I make sure I understand

August 28, 2016 02:33PM
What is it exactly that your are disagreeing with?

That Goff's performance has been disappointing?
That he isn't ready to start and that Keenum is surely the better QB right now?
That I shouldn't be alarmed at the performance because of the list of legitimate issues you raise regarding Fisher not playing him more often with the starters?

Many of the issues you raise in your response I have raised previously as criticisms of Fisher's handling of Goff. However, what happened to Goff's great feet and sense of anticipation and his ability to escape? He has primarily faced 2's and 3's is it unreasonable for me to expect him to pass an eye ball test against that level of talent

Look I admit the Rams losing year after year could have me jaded but I don't think we should pretend or dismiss trends. Goff's performance has been underwhelming and some of it is due to the position that Fisher has put him in. On the other hand a lot of what we have seen from Goff is consistent with what we have heard from the camp reports.


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Saguaro
Goff has never had the full starting oline in front of him as Keenum has.

He's never been out there with Kendricks and Britt as receivers.

He's never been out there with Gurley and very little with BC.

The Keenum/Goff comparison is not being made on an even basis.

Yes, Goff is still learning and isn't processing as fast as he will be.
Yes, he's made some mistakes.

But he can never get into a rhythm when every other pass is dropped or Williams and co. are letting defenders have free runs at his back.

I don't want to run down our starter just to make Goff look better but the fact is that last night when Keenum got pressure he didn't look any better than Goff has.

He threw one duck up under pressure and took a sack. Fortunately for him, his duck landed safely rather than having a defender near it, but it wasn't good.

IMO, the Rams haven't given Goff or us a chance to see yet what he would look like with a chance to settle in with the whole 1st team offense.

He's been asked to win the job from Keenum, by doing more with less. And predictably, it hasn't happened.

You and I disagree on this.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/28/2016 02:36PM by Speed_Kills.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  No doubt Keenan starts now

Hazlet Hacksaw1482August 27, 2016 08:58PM

  right up there with the last few sets of WRs

Blue and Gold610August 27, 2016 09:07PM

  Re: right up there with the last few sets of WRs

RFIP684August 28, 2016 04:28AM

  The leg scares me

Hazlet Hacksaw582August 28, 2016 08:55AM

  Very low on my priority list right now...

JamesJM463August 28, 2016 09:00AM

  He is going to score 1/3 of their points

Hazlet Hacksaw459August 28, 2016 11:17AM

  missed only 2 kicks in 2013

Blue and Gold419August 28, 2016 11:22AM

  what is his outdoors %?

Hazlet Hacksaw422August 28, 2016 11:24AM

  Grass = 65% Turf = 85% for his career

Blue and Gold608August 28, 2016 11:29AM

  Wow

Hazlet Hacksaw422August 28, 2016 11:37AM

  But, as usual stats are going to be skewed

Blue and Gold437August 28, 2016 11:59AM

  Fair enough

Hazlet Hacksaw404August 28, 2016 01:46PM

  Yeah, it's a mixed bag, in 2014 he missed 2

Blue and Gold417August 28, 2016 02:51PM

  Good info thanks

Hazlet Hacksaw496August 28, 2016 05:22PM

  +1(nm)

dodgerram447August 28, 2016 11:30PM

  Re:Pretty sad ain't it!...NM

laram535August 28, 2016 04:13AM

  Gurley AND Austin

Suh-weet!569August 28, 2016 04:58AM

  yeah I gotta agree

ferragamo79545August 28, 2016 06:07AM

  Keenum, Goff, Mannion....

JamesJM529August 28, 2016 06:15AM

  Re: Keenum, Goff, Mannion....

RFIP575August 28, 2016 06:18AM

  That's how I see it... but..

JamesJM506August 28, 2016 08:04AM

  Re: Keenum, Goff, Mannion....I see it as you do

BumRap432August 28, 2016 09:52PM

  The drops and the o line were a joke

stlrams13540August 28, 2016 06:27AM

  Totally agree with all this stuff

ArizonaRamFan481August 28, 2016 06:32AM

  Excellent post! +1 nm

Saguaro429August 28, 2016 09:10AM

  I think some are underestimating the implication

9er8er666August 28, 2016 07:08AM

  Re: I think some are underestimating the implication

Rams43566August 28, 2016 07:32AM

  Keenum has done nothing noteworthy

9er8er458August 28, 2016 08:20AM

  Re: point taken

Speed_Kills447August 28, 2016 08:31AM

  Yeah

9er8er421August 28, 2016 08:45AM

  Re: Keenum has done nothing noteworthy

Rams43591August 28, 2016 08:37AM

  43

9er8er449August 28, 2016 08:50AM

  Re: 43

Rams43438August 28, 2016 08:56AM

  Re: 43

LARams17332August 28, 2016 11:23AM

  Re: Absolutely agree, but...

laram601August 28, 2016 07:38AM

  Re: Absolutely agree, but...

Anonymous User623August 28, 2016 08:17AM

  Re: That's a good way of putting it Florida...nm

laram555August 28, 2016 08:19AM

  Re: Nonchalant is appropriate

Speed_Kills557August 28, 2016 08:24AM

  Re: Nonchalant is appropriate

Anonymous User541August 28, 2016 09:14AM

  Re: Nonchalant is appropriate

LARams17450August 28, 2016 11:25AM

  Nonchalant is appropriate... Nick Nolte LARams17? LOL

Anonymous User716August 28, 2016 12:24PM

  Re: Absolutely agree, but...

LARams17432August 28, 2016 10:35AM

  Jeff Fisher ain't worried about nothing.

9er8er478August 28, 2016 08:28AM

  Re: Absolutely agree, but...

bigjimram21408August 28, 2016 09:38AM

  Re: No issue with any of that

Speed_Kills442August 28, 2016 08:19AM

  maybe after three games

Hazlet Hacksaw421August 28, 2016 08:38AM

  Re: yep. I could see that nm

Speed_Kills417August 28, 2016 08:49AM

  I think the "unreadiness" vs Keenum is being overstated.

Saguaro534August 28, 2016 09:21AM

  SAG - BEST POST in the Thread! +1 nm

Ram Fan Teacher448August 28, 2016 09:27AM

  Re: I think you overlook some significant factors....

laram446August 28, 2016 09:34AM

  Re: I think you overlook some significant factors....

Rams43319August 28, 2016 11:26AM

  Re: I think the "unreadiness" vs Keenum is being overstated.

LARams17483August 28, 2016 10:37AM

  I read your earlier post today after I wrote this one. You had it all there.

Saguaro508August 28, 2016 11:14AM

  That's a nice litany of excuses

9er8er497August 28, 2016 12:17PM

  Re: That's a nice factual inaccuracy

dzrams430August 28, 2016 04:40PM

  No

9er8er472August 28, 2016 07:37PM

  Re: Yeah I didn't wanna speak for you...

laram444August 29, 2016 03:34AM

  Re: You are correct...

dzrams407August 29, 2016 07:18AM

  Re: so that I make sure I understand

Speed_Kills429August 28, 2016 02:33PM

  Re: so that I make sure I understand

9er8er395August 28, 2016 03:04PM

  Overstated was my term which is not the same as misstated.

Saguaro450August 28, 2016 03:56PM

  Re: yeah we disagree nm

Speed_Kills595August 28, 2016 04:21PM

  why I disagree with that

zn359August 28, 2016 08:48PM

  Re: why I disagree with that

Speed_Kills404August 29, 2016 03:29AM

  Re: I think some are underestimating the implication

waterfield385August 28, 2016 08:32AM

  A couple of things I'd like to point out

Deadpool584August 28, 2016 08:58AM

  Two things in return

9er8er510August 28, 2016 09:04AM

  not really

Deadpool706August 28, 2016 10:04AM

  Re: not really

9er8er558August 28, 2016 11:45AM

  A nonsense

RFL607August 28, 2016 08:38PM

  Agree way too premature

BumRap524August 28, 2016 11:03PM

  Yep! IMO, Fisher...

Suh-weet!423August 29, 2016 04:10AM