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Re: I pretty much agree with all of that

August 21, 2016 04:33PM
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moklerman
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Speed_Kills
The eyes don't lie. He's not close to being ready and won't be. What I don't get is how Presscott can look some much more polished

One thing I will say Goff, attempted 12 passes - is that how you get a QB ready to play? Forget the WRs for a second. I believe the Rams offensive coaching just might be awful

How do you explain Goff and Presscott. What kind of offense did Presscott play in? Was he under center and was he reading defenses and calling plays in the huddle?

Also did the Rams not have a script of plays for Goff To help build some confidence? I think Goff looking the way he does is a reflection of Jeff Fisher and this coaching staff

Hunh. I agree that Goff isn't ready and certainly doesn't look as good as Keenum. Otherwise, not understanding where you're coming from in blaming the coaching staff.

12 attempted passes - yes, why not? As we've discussed ad infinitum, the Rams will run more than most. I'd also just as soon NOT invite the defense to try teeing off on my quarterbacks.

As for Prescott, maybe the Cowboys got lucky. Or maybe preseason is preseason; he wouldn't be the first NFL QB to look like an All-Pro only when it doesn't count.

I see nothing that makes me think Goff won't be the team's "franchise QB" in not too long. In the meantime, I'm just glad to see Keenum and the offense under him do well and hope that carries over into the regular season.
I think it's easy to blame the coaching staff. Assuming Goff has the talent and ability, what's the one thing a QB needs to get acclimated to the NFL? Reps. I'm not saying Goff should have been handed the keys from day 1, but realistically, shouldn't he be getting most of the reps? The first preseason game for example. Why not give Mannion the start and Goff the rest of the first half and second half? Not that it would have mattered, I guess. He got the bulk of playing time in game 2 but only got 12 pass attempts.

Which is an important point that has been brought up before. If the Rams are going to feature the running game and not really be a passing team, why on God's green Earth spend a #1 overall and 6 premium picks to get a QB who wasn't a "sure thing", if at all? I have to assume this team is being built in the Seahawks mold so why didn't, as many armchair draft experts on Rams boards suggested, draft Prescott to fill the Russell Wilson role? Even if you wanted to draft a QB in the first round, they could have stayed put and likely got Paxton Lynch.

Because if they're going to sit Goff for a while and let him learn behind our latest backup who's starting, they could have done the same thing with Lynch for a lot less resources. Or Cook or whoever.

Goff only got 12 pass attempts because the defense couldn't get the Chiefs off the field - Chiefs held the ball 13 minutes longer than the Rams. Given that, what could the coaches have done differently except try to dial up passes constantly? And THAT, IMO, would have been a terrible move, especially w/the Rams (and both teams) shuffling personnel constantly. No, I don't want my prize young QB setting up to pass time after time behind a shifting OL.

Second, so you wouldn't have given CK ANY reps? Not me. I want the best guy to win the job and seeing how they do in preseason is obviously a big part of that. It'd be AWESOME if Goff looked better than Keenum already. But we knew about the exclusive-shotgun offense he ran and that he didn't call his own plays. Throw in the "big league" adjustment and I'm just not dismayed that he can't yet beat out a vet guy who started in this offense and has had TONS more time to prepare. Again, if we're still having this conversation next year - and not simply because CK morphed into a superstar - I'll be with you. Now? WAY premature.

Third, if getting "Russell Wilson" in the 3rd or 4th were that easy, every team would do it. But the truth is that even "run-first" teams fare much better w/great QB's and great QB's are much more likely found high in round 1. For sure if Goff turns out to be less than a very good QB, then the Rams blew it. I just don't think the fact that he's not better than CK yet means he won't become a very good QB soon enough.
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  Keenum has beaten Goff for No. 1; Rams need to make it official

RamBill1499August 20, 2016 10:07PM

  I don't know

GreatRamNTheSky609August 21, 2016 02:49AM

  game four

wv ram536August 21, 2016 04:33AM

  I don't recall that

GreatRamNTheSky468August 21, 2016 06:10AM

  Re: Keenum has beaten Goff for No. 1; Rams need to make it official

moklerman762August 21, 2016 03:17AM

  Simple answer really

GreatRamNTheSky722August 21, 2016 03:25AM

  Re: Simple answer really

dodgerram600August 21, 2016 04:06AM

  Re: Simple answer really

RFIP495August 21, 2016 04:16AM

  Re: Simple answer really

moklerman544August 21, 2016 04:20AM

  Re: Simple answer really...???

Rampage2K-342August 21, 2016 09:50PM

  Re: Simple answer really...???

GreatRamNTheSky740August 22, 2016 02:02AM

  Not basing things on the media

moklerman690August 22, 2016 05:05AM

  Re: Not basing things on the media

Rampage2K-485August 22, 2016 05:16AM

  Re: Not basing things on the media

moklerman750August 22, 2016 05:38AM

  Re: Not basing things on the media

Rampage2K-497August 22, 2016 05:45AM

  So, we need to be guarded?

moklerman551August 22, 2016 05:50AM

  Re: So, we need to be guarded?

73Ram407August 22, 2016 12:20PM

  very well said

zn538August 21, 2016 04:26AM

  hear! hear!

Suh-weet!499August 21, 2016 04:37AM

  Re: hear! hear!

moklerman580August 21, 2016 04:42AM

  Re: hear! hear!

AlbaNY_Ram593August 21, 2016 08:12AM

  Re: hear! hear!

Rams43469August 21, 2016 08:31AM

  Game 5?

moklerman564August 21, 2016 10:53AM

  Re: Game 5?

AlbaNY_Ram440August 21, 2016 04:33PM

  Re: hear! hear!

Suh-weet!453August 21, 2016 08:25AM

  Re: hear! hear!

moklerman601August 22, 2016 05:12AM

  Their moves make sense to me; sorry they don't to you.

Suh-weet!511August 22, 2016 07:48AM

  Re: Yep...

Speed_Kills603August 21, 2016 07:44AM

  Re: Yep...

MamaRAMa605August 21, 2016 07:48AM

  Re: Yep...

Speed_Kills463August 21, 2016 08:04AM

  Wrs

Hazlet Hacksaw431August 21, 2016 09:13AM

  Re: Jeff does not want him ready If you ask me

BumRap559August 21, 2016 06:52PM

  Completely disagree

moklerman435August 22, 2016 05:18AM

  Re: Keenum has beaten Goff for No. 1; Rams need to make it official

waterfield525August 21, 2016 09:34AM

  Have to agree in one sense

Blue and Gold483August 21, 2016 09:37AM

  Re: Keenum has beaten Goff for No. 1; Rams need to make it official

Ram Fan Teacher541August 21, 2016 03:46AM

  Re: Keenum has beaten Goff for No. 1; Rams need to make it official

oldschoolramfan491August 21, 2016 05:53AM

  Re: I pretty much agree with all of that

Speed_Kills485August 21, 2016 07:39AM

  Re: I pretty much agree with all of that

Suh-weet!619August 21, 2016 08:17AM

  Re: I pretty much agree with all of that

moklerman469August 21, 2016 11:05AM

  Re: I pretty much agree with all of that

Suh-weet!348August 21, 2016 04:33PM

  Isn't it amazing though

9er8er586August 21, 2016 10:54AM

  Re: Isn't it amazing though

moklerman649August 21, 2016 11:08AM

  Re: Isn't it amazing though

waterfield520August 21, 2016 12:53PM

  It's obvious that they don't

9er8er431August 21, 2016 01:26PM

  Re: It's obvious that they don't

waterfield539August 21, 2016 01:36PM

  Re: It's obvious that they don't

9er8er482August 21, 2016 02:23PM

  Re: It's obvious that they don't

waterfield457August 21, 2016 02:42PM

  Re: It's obvious that they don't

9er8er480August 21, 2016 02:52PM

  Re: It's obvious that they don't

waterfield530August 21, 2016 06:21PM

  Completely agree w/you

Suh-weet!432August 21, 2016 07:11PM

  Re: Isn't it amazing though

dzrams438August 21, 2016 01:37PM

  Re: Isn't it amazing though

Speed_Kills419August 21, 2016 01:52PM

  Re: Isn't it amazing though

Razorback379August 21, 2016 07:42PM

  Prescott is playing with full time #1's

Hazlet Hacksaw389August 22, 2016 12:37PM

  I would still like to see Goff actually play with the No. 1's

IowaRam543August 21, 2016 07:58AM

  Keenum beaten Goff for No. 1.. As I responded to laram

Anonymous User528August 21, 2016 09:47AM

  Re: Keenum beaten Goff for No. 1.. As I responded to laram

Rams43496August 21, 2016 07:24PM

  Re: Keenum has beaten Goff for No. 1; Rams need to make it official

BobCarl565August 21, 2016 12:36PM

  OK Vinnie glad you have seen enough

LesBaker637August 21, 2016 03:42PM

  Right...

Atlantic Ram429August 21, 2016 07:24PM

  it was never really an open competition ....

Rampage2K-602August 21, 2016 10:11PM

  Re: it was never really an open competition ....

moklerman565August 22, 2016 05:27AM

  Re: it was never really an open competition ....

LARams17656August 22, 2016 10:04AM

  Re: it was never really an open competition ....

Rampage2K-409August 22, 2016 10:22AM