December 28, 2023 07:35PM
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max
Look at 4th comebacks / winning drives.

Thats what’s important, not passing stats. It’s wins that count. And Rodgers is historically bad at 4th quarter winning drives.

Stafford is 6th all time
Rodgers is 28th.

[www.pro-football-reference.com]


Problem with counting just the gross numbers is it does not include the time either one failed. Stafford in many more games where they were trailing ... so the performance in games trailing still favors Rodgers, by a lot.




It's like saves in baseball if you count just saves a guy with 35 saves might seem like he had a better year than a guy with 21. You have to know how many blown saves there were.

Rodgers plays better in the 4the Q and OT and he plays better in 4th Q and OT when he's trailing. And when he's winning. And when games are close (leading or trailing by 3 or less.

I love Stafford but he's just not the QB Rodgers is. Rodgers is easy to hate. I get it. But Stafford didn't succeed in all the times he was behind ... he was just behind more often than Rodgers so more opportunities because Rodgers teams took leads into the 4th quarter far more often..

Now, if you want to talk about Rodgers vs Brady, then Brady > Rodgers.

Even in games where both came back from 17 or less down in 4th Q/OT Rodgers was better and in the one neither can could overcome the defecit Rodgers still better. In the non-comeback games Stafford threw more picks than TD




I just don't think Rodgers was notoriously bad at 4th QB comebacks ... he didn't get his team in holes. Of course, Stafford being behind not always his fault... he did play on bad teams. So, I am not suggesting he was bad, it's just that the 4th QB comeback needs to have a little context. That's all.

I could break it down further and further, bu 3 points (I did) or 7 points ... or 8, I didn't get that far, I just wanted to have some perspective)

sorry, 4th edit...adding last chart

it's trailing by one score or less ... in 4th Q, total, wins, losses ... again Rogers better in all, though in the wins it's close.




Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 12/28/2023 07:59PM by JimYoungblood53.
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  X: Wink Martindale with high praise for #Rams’ QB: “Matt Stafford is playing at a Hall of Fame level.” Attachments

Ramsdude301December 28, 2023 09:42AM

  Re: Coaches watch film.....Stafford JUMPS off that screen.

oldschoolramfan113December 28, 2023 10:34AM

  Stafford may be the most underrated QB ever...

max115December 28, 2023 11:13AM

  All true

JimYoungblood5393December 28, 2023 11:53AM

  A couple of things on that

max97December 28, 2023 01:27PM

  Re: A couple of things on that Attachments

JimYoungblood5386December 28, 2023 03:29PM

  Re: A couple of things on that

max76December 28, 2023 06:24PM

  Rodgers still better when trailing in 4th Q or OT Attachments

JimYoungblood5387December 28, 2023 07:35PM

  Not in the playoffs with a good team

max67December 29, 2023 03:11AM

  Wait, now you're changing the subject.

JimYoungblood5349December 29, 2023 08:07AM

  and Rodgers less

Speed_Kills51December 29, 2023 07:38AM

  Manning's got two rings

Coy Bacon56December 28, 2023 03:33PM

  Thanks, you're right

JimYoungblood5358December 28, 2023 03:51PM

  Yeah Rodgers is the better comp for sure

Speed_Kills55December 29, 2023 07:36AM

  small market?

LesBaker59December 28, 2023 04:28PM

  Did we dismantle the team too soon?

Ramsdude102December 28, 2023 11:24AM

  Re: Did we dismantle the team too soon?

IdahoRam97December 28, 2023 11:41AM

  Re: Did we dismantle the team too soon?

Coy Bacon105December 28, 2023 03:35PM

  Re: Did we dismantle the team too soon?

Old Goat56December 29, 2023 07:47AM

  We had a "O line" last year??? lol

Ramsdude57December 29, 2023 09:32AM

  Re: We had a "O line" last year??? lol

nantucketramfan50December 29, 2023 11:43AM

  100% Agree on Gay!

Ramsdude49December 29, 2023 12:21PM

  yep, Alot people on this board want to get rid of him and the coach

Stafford9101December 28, 2023 11:46AM

  Re: yep, Alot people on this board want to get rid of him and the coach

Coy Bacon73December 28, 2023 03:37PM

  Getting rid of McVay was totally absurd

max77December 29, 2023 03:18AM

  I get it

Stafford964December 29, 2023 04:11AM

  Re: Getting rid of McVay was totally absurd

21Dog59December 29, 2023 04:58AM

  Re: Getting rid of McVay was totally absurd

Speed_Kills79December 29, 2023 07:52AM

  2 things here

LesBaker54December 29, 2023 05:35PM

  This current ram offense is capable of hanging 30+ points on any team right now…

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