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December 29, 2023 08:07AM
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Rodgers got to 1 SB with all those really good Packers teams. He repeatedly had HFA in the playoffs and stunk in the 4th quarter.

Most recently, he had HFA against Niners in 2021, and choked in the red zone at end of game.

He’s always been too afraid to throw a pick. He pads his stats, and chokes in big games when he has to show some guts.

In a big game with when you need a guy with ice water in his veins, I’ll take Stafford every time.

Now you're just Rodgers bashing. You had an opinion about him and used comeback wins as your evidence and when I showed that the evidence is skewed ... that your assumptions can at least be QUESTIONED based on what actually happened over long careers you won't even CONSIDER the things I posed.

How is that fair?

Now you are using just your anecdotes. And you feelings rather than facts. And assumptions that in what I see are totally false without using the same level of scrutiny for Stafford.

Padding stats? Prior to his years in the Rams he was called Stat Padford for a reason. It may not be fair that the two Stafford pads stats far more than Rodgers.

And whatever you say about Rodgers "stinking" in critical situations applies more to Stafford than Rodgers. I happen to like Detroit and watched them a lot. The things you are saying about Stafford don't apply every time. He throws more picks in critical situations but when Stafford "choked" it's not in the highlight packages.

I get it you take like one guy over the others but it has to be evidence-based. If you want to talk about ROgers not achieving what he should have, given his talent that's a fair conversation to have.

But I respect your right to like whoever, and even to ignore all the evidence in my post ... which you didn't even acknowledge ... tells me you had your mind made up based on your dislike for Rodgers. I am no Rodgers fan personally but that does not mean I am going to ignore facts.

But in no world, in no situation in an NFL is Stafford better than Rodgers. It fails from the numbers, it fails by reputation, it fails my eye test. I saw too many games where Stafford's poor decisions got his team in a hole. And he'd come back and win some but lose more and in those situations, throwing to Calvin Johnson he'd get 300-yard passing games when for most of the game he stunk. And I LIKE Stafford. But his hero ball has always been a problem.

But Rodgers is simply more accurate has a stronger arm, is tons smarter with the ball but puts balls into the tightest windows I've ever seen and he does it for an entire game. Is he as good as Brady in terms of winning? No. But no one is. But Rodgers will go down with the other QBs I mentioned. He'll be in HOF> Stafford is questionable...his only chance is if he can end his career on high note--which he's on the way to doing.

McVay has, for the most part, limited that.

Now, I am willing to listen if you have anything other than cherry-picked situations that you don't apply to Stafford. I am willing to be proven wrong but it can't be on anyone's say so. But if we're going to reduce things to no evidence but "I know what I saw". Well, I know what I see, too. I watch as much, or more than most fans and as someone who studies, watches and listens ... I have to just strongly disagree. There just nothing backing it.

And trust, me, again, I get that you love Stafford and maybe Rodgers annoys you and that is fair...
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  X: Wink Martindale with high praise for #Rams’ QB: “Matt Stafford is playing at a Hall of Fame level.” Attachments

Ramsdude296December 28, 2023 09:42AM

  Re: Coaches watch film.....Stafford JUMPS off that screen.

oldschoolramfan110December 28, 2023 10:34AM

  Stafford may be the most underrated QB ever...

max112December 28, 2023 11:13AM

  All true

JimYoungblood5390December 28, 2023 11:53AM

  A couple of things on that

max94December 28, 2023 01:27PM

  Re: A couple of things on that Attachments

JimYoungblood5383December 28, 2023 03:29PM

  Re: A couple of things on that

max73December 28, 2023 06:24PM

  Rodgers still better when trailing in 4th Q or OT Attachments

JimYoungblood5385December 28, 2023 07:35PM

  Not in the playoffs with a good team

max63December 29, 2023 03:11AM

  Wait, now you're changing the subject.

JimYoungblood5346December 29, 2023 08:07AM

  and Rodgers less

Speed_Kills48December 29, 2023 07:38AM

  Manning's got two rings

Coy Bacon54December 28, 2023 03:33PM

  Thanks, you're right

JimYoungblood5355December 28, 2023 03:51PM

  Yeah Rodgers is the better comp for sure

Speed_Kills52December 29, 2023 07:36AM

  small market?

LesBaker56December 28, 2023 04:28PM

  Did we dismantle the team too soon?

Ramsdude100December 28, 2023 11:24AM

  Re: Did we dismantle the team too soon?

IdahoRam93December 28, 2023 11:41AM

  Re: Did we dismantle the team too soon?

Coy Bacon98December 28, 2023 03:35PM

  Re: Did we dismantle the team too soon?

Old Goat53December 29, 2023 07:47AM

  We had a "O line" last year??? lol

Ramsdude53December 29, 2023 09:32AM

  Re: We had a "O line" last year??? lol

nantucketramfan47December 29, 2023 11:43AM

  100% Agree on Gay!

Ramsdude45December 29, 2023 12:21PM

  yep, Alot people on this board want to get rid of him and the coach

Stafford998December 28, 2023 11:46AM

  Re: yep, Alot people on this board want to get rid of him and the coach

Coy Bacon70December 28, 2023 03:37PM

  Getting rid of McVay was totally absurd

max75December 29, 2023 03:18AM

  I get it

Stafford961December 29, 2023 04:11AM

  Re: Getting rid of McVay was totally absurd

21Dog55December 29, 2023 04:58AM

  Re: Getting rid of McVay was totally absurd

Speed_Kills76December 29, 2023 07:52AM

  2 things here

LesBaker51December 29, 2023 05:35PM

  This current ram offense is capable of hanging 30+ points on any team right now…

Rams4335December 30, 2023 05:34AM