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Re: yep I don't buy that

November 06, 2019 08:56AM
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I'm not saying that NB is a bad or below average player. I'm saying that he struggled at guard and now he's injured.

I think the "he struggled at guard" stuff is hyperbole.

He was clearly getting in the groove before he got hurt.

So that's what I don't buy.

In terms of them having a contingency, the Rams have a rare thing--2 promising young LOTs on their roster, neither taken above round 3.

That's just a luxury few teams ever have.

They can wait on NB because they have Edwards.

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It can be true that he was getting in the groove and that he struggled at guard. In fact, PFF validates both views.

Per PFF, he was rated 47/58 guards over his 6 games. His overall rating was 39.9. That's not good. That is struggling. And that is not made up hyperbole.

But they also validate yours and Kromer's view that he was improving.

In his 2nd to last game, his rating had come up into the 50 range which is decent. His last game was rated at 77.5 which is above average.

You like PFF far more than I do. Either way they are not the only word on this. Other places have ranked the Rams OL higher. As a rule, just saying to me personally "PFF says" won't do much. I don't take them as being dead on.

And so yes hyperbole plus a PFF grade does not do it for me.

The entire OL struggled, including the OTs, and when THAT happens, you can never take individual grades as meaning much. It is impossible to look good when the OL as a whole does not cohere. And at that point it's a fallacy to act like we have a bead on individual players. The real issue IMO is that the starting OL did not have live reps AS A UNIT before the season, which means timing was off, they did not quite cohere, and etc. That's a UNIT issue.

As the OL started to steady NB did improve to the point where Kromer was even commenting on it.

He also played well in 2018 when subbing in.

If we disagree on that, fine....let's not just repeat ourselves though. Leave it at disagreeing. I just know I stand by what I said.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/06/2019 09:03AM by zn.
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  Whitworth open to returning in 2020

dzrams544November 05, 2019 12:57PM

  Re: Whitworth open to returning in 2020

no name139November 05, 2019 01:18PM

  Rams shouldnt be...

LMU93199November 05, 2019 01:19PM

  Re: The injury changes things...

dzrams128November 05, 2019 02:45PM

  Why would he have to be the starter?

GlacieRam81November 05, 2019 02:54PM

  Re: Rams shouldnt be...

Rams4389November 05, 2019 02:59PM

  leave one year early vs. one year late

LMU9348November 06, 2019 04:33AM

  Re: And yet....

dzrams38November 06, 2019 06:55AM

  I don't buy the bad buzz on NB

zn68November 06, 2019 07:09AM

  Re: I don't buy the bad buzz on NB

Rams4336November 06, 2019 07:29AM

  Re: I don't buy the bad buzz on NB

dzrams31November 06, 2019 07:47AM

  I agree DZ

ferragamo7917November 06, 2019 07:55AM

  yep I don't buy that

zn30November 06, 2019 08:24AM

  Re: yep I don't buy that

dzrams20November 06, 2019 08:43AM

  Re: yep I don't buy that

zn23November 06, 2019 08:56AM

  Re: yep I don't buy that

dzrams19November 06, 2019 09:24AM

  Re: yep I don't buy that

zn29November 06, 2019 07:02PM

  I also think it's got to be about the whole unit

LMU9316November 06, 2019 09:25AM

  How do you know Edwards can play LOT?

Deadpool25November 09, 2019 09:09AM

  right DP

ferragamo797November 09, 2019 09:46AM

  Re: How do you know Edwards can play LOT?

zn26November 09, 2019 10:23AM

  Good enough for me

Deadpool13November 09, 2019 12:46PM

  Re: Good enough for me

zn13November 09, 2019 01:39PM

  Re: And yet....

AlbaNY_Ram19November 06, 2019 07:35AM

  Re: And yet....

dzrams17November 06, 2019 07:52AM

  Re: And yet....

zn16November 06, 2019 08:35AM

  Re: And yet....

LMU9312November 06, 2019 09:15AM

  Re: Whit would be my Matthews/Weddle type signing!

dzrams22November 06, 2019 09:40AM

  Re: Whit would be my Matthews/Weddle type signing!

LMU9312November 06, 2019 09:47AM

  Re: Whit would be my Matthews/Weddle type signing!

dzrams15November 06, 2019 09:51AM

  Noteboom is rolling the dice

ferragamo79130November 05, 2019 05:32PM

  Re: Noteboom is rolling the dice

LMU9355November 06, 2019 04:31AM

  Re: Noteboom is rolling the dice

zn64November 06, 2019 04:54AM

  Re: Noteboom is rolling the dice

LMU9332November 06, 2019 06:12AM

  Evans at LG

Hazlet Hacksaw43November 06, 2019 06:44AM

  Re: Evans at LG

zn39November 06, 2019 07:01AM

  Re: Noteboom is rolling the dice

Steve15November 09, 2019 02:43AM

  Re: Noteboom is rolling the dice

zn11November 09, 2019 06:07AM

  Re: Noteboom is rolling the dice

Steve7November 09, 2019 08:44AM

  Re: Noteboom is rolling the dice

zn12November 09, 2019 09:00AM

  Re: Noteboom is rolling the dice

zn10November 09, 2019 08:58AM

  Re: Guards value

Steve10November 10, 2019 05:38AM

  I don’t know how this OL will shake out for ‘20...

Rams4340November 06, 2019 07:24AM

  Re: I don’t know how this OL will shake out for ‘20...

dzrams30November 06, 2019 07:56AM

  Re: I don’t know how this OL will shake out for ‘20...

Rams4324November 06, 2019 08:08AM

  doubt it

zn38November 06, 2019 08:27AM

  Re: doubt it

PHDram23November 06, 2019 08:40AM

  Re: doubt it

dzrams20November 06, 2019 08:54AM

  Re: doubt it

zn25November 06, 2019 08:58AM

  Re: Fair enough...

dzrams17November 06, 2019 09:26AM

  Re: Fair enough...

zn18November 06, 2019 09:31AM

  Re: doubt it

21Dog21November 07, 2019 04:08AM

  Roll of the dice....

LMU9318November 07, 2019 05:04AM

  Re: Roll of the dice....

zn27November 07, 2019 05:35AM

  Re: Roll of the dice....

LMU9317November 07, 2019 07:33AM

  Re: Roll of the dice....

dzrams15November 07, 2019 08:38AM

  Probably gonna be a ‘best 5’ will start scenario in ‘20...

Rams4313November 07, 2019 09:11AM

  will Noteboom miss OTAs?..

LMU9317November 07, 2019 09:38AM

  Re: will Noteboom miss OTAs?..

zn19November 08, 2019 07:12PM

  Re: will Noteboom miss OTAs?..

LMU939November 09, 2019 04:44AM

  Thing Is

BC Ramsfan17November 08, 2019 10:10PM

  Re: Thing Is

zn17November 08, 2019 10:22PM

  I see them updating line in 2020

ferragamo7910November 09, 2019 06:41AM

  Re: I see them updating line in 2020

zn11November 09, 2019 06:54AM

  Re: I see them updating line in 2020

Rams4310November 09, 2019 07:20AM

  Here's the thing the Rams are not the Pats

ferragamo798November 09, 2019 07:37AM

  and the Pats are just one convenient example of a common thing

zn15November 09, 2019 08:19AM

  Re: Yes---not vets to fill in on OL

Steve16November 09, 2019 02:45AM

  The issue will be the cost

RockRam88November 05, 2019 03:17PM

  Always hard to predict when Father time slams the door

Rams_819November 09, 2019 08:41AM