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Re: I don't buy the bad buzz on NB

November 06, 2019 07:47AM
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Exactly. And he's already showing signs of declining. He's gone from a great LT to pretty good. To think that trend does anything but continue in a year at age 38 isn't logical.

Sure, he's declining and that will continue. And yet, even in his declined state, he is by far our best olinemen. Which of our other olinemen are coming close to his performance this year?

Maybe Edwards and he's only had what 2 games?

It's possible he could take another step down next year and still be our best olinemen.

Noteboom was awful at guard and more importantly he's now injured. As Ferragamo said below, going with NB to protect the blind side given his injury and performance at guard this year is a big roll of the dice. You would have to assume that he would play much better at OT. That's not a given. You would also have to assume that he comes back right away from a major injury. That's also not a given.

Going with NB at LT without a strong contingency plan is foolish. Very foolish.

The injury is an issue but just in terms of how soon he will be up to speed.

But as Kromer said, NB was improving at the LG spot before getting hurt. I simply do not buy the idea that he is a bad player or even a below avg. one. I think instead that people are too quick to judge after a few games and can't see the upward trajectory on a good player. He did play LOT in 2018 and did well.

In terms of contingency plan, Edwards can play LOT.

And what you have with the Rams is one of the best OL coaches of the last decade. And yet we're quick to judge, and even call them foolish?

Meanwhile the Rams found a good OL starter in a 5th round rookie, and yet people are so sure they're this complete mess.

I probably wasn't all that clear. Or you misunderstood me. Or both.

I'm not saying that NB is a bad or below average player. I'm saying that he struggled at guard and now he's injured.

IMO, it's one thing to toss a struggling guard in there at LOT, it's another to do so immediately after coming off a major injury. It's not just one potential red flag to consider; now you have two.

I haven't made a final judgment on what Noteboom will become as a player but when comparing him to Edwards, because NB struggled at guard and Edwards has excelled, that is a factor in making me believe that Edwards is a good player with a higher or at least clearer upward trajectory. IOW, for me, performance at the guard position is a factor in how I think they'll do at LOT.

What I was saying was foolish was the plan discussed here of handing Noteboom the LOT job next year. There's got to be a really good contingency plan.

I wasn't calling the Rams coaches foolish at all. We don't know what they're going to do at this point. For all we know, they may prefer my plan of bringing Whit back very cheaply.

I agree that Edwards playing LOT is a decent contingency plan. I simply prefer to bring Whit back in the $5M range, IF possible, and keep Edwards at guard where he is doing very well.

I'd like to see them go this route and draft another guard fairly early and let him develop for a year.
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  Whitworth open to returning in 2020

dzrams611November 05, 2019 12:57PM

  Re: Whitworth open to returning in 2020

no name217November 05, 2019 01:18PM

  Rams shouldnt be...

LMU93276November 05, 2019 01:19PM

  Re: The injury changes things...

dzrams187November 05, 2019 02:45PM

  Why would he have to be the starter?

GlacieRam143November 05, 2019 02:54PM

  Re: Rams shouldnt be...

Rams43141November 05, 2019 02:59PM

  leave one year early vs. one year late

LMU93102November 06, 2019 04:33AM

  Re: And yet....

dzrams96November 06, 2019 06:55AM

  I don't buy the bad buzz on NB

zn132November 06, 2019 07:09AM

  Re: I don't buy the bad buzz on NB

Rams4384November 06, 2019 07:29AM

  Re: I don't buy the bad buzz on NB

dzrams81November 06, 2019 07:47AM

  I agree DZ

ferragamo7966November 06, 2019 07:55AM

  yep I don't buy that

zn75November 06, 2019 08:24AM

  Re: yep I don't buy that

dzrams66November 06, 2019 08:43AM

  Re: yep I don't buy that

zn79November 06, 2019 08:56AM

  Re: yep I don't buy that

dzrams66November 06, 2019 09:24AM

  Re: yep I don't buy that

zn70November 06, 2019 07:02PM

  I also think it's got to be about the whole unit

LMU9363November 06, 2019 09:25AM

  How do you know Edwards can play LOT?

Deadpool81November 09, 2019 09:09AM

  right DP

ferragamo7950November 09, 2019 09:46AM

  Re: How do you know Edwards can play LOT?

zn68November 09, 2019 10:23AM

  Good enough for me

Deadpool49November 09, 2019 12:46PM

  Re: Good enough for me

zn51November 09, 2019 01:39PM

  Re: And yet....

AlbaNY_Ram70November 06, 2019 07:35AM

  Re: And yet....

dzrams69November 06, 2019 07:52AM

  Re: And yet....

zn67November 06, 2019 08:35AM

  Re: And yet....

LMU9361November 06, 2019 09:15AM

  Re: Whit would be my Matthews/Weddle type signing!

dzrams77November 06, 2019 09:40AM

  Re: Whit would be my Matthews/Weddle type signing!

LMU9358November 06, 2019 09:47AM

  Re: Whit would be my Matthews/Weddle type signing!

dzrams77November 06, 2019 09:51AM

  Noteboom is rolling the dice

ferragamo79236November 05, 2019 05:32PM

  Re: Noteboom is rolling the dice

LMU93121November 06, 2019 04:31AM

  Re: Noteboom is rolling the dice

zn126November 06, 2019 04:54AM

  Re: Noteboom is rolling the dice

LMU93102November 06, 2019 06:12AM

  Evans at LG

Hazlet Hacksaw102November 06, 2019 06:44AM

  Re: Evans at LG

zn94November 06, 2019 07:01AM

  Re: Noteboom is rolling the dice

Steve67November 09, 2019 02:43AM

  Re: Noteboom is rolling the dice

zn56November 09, 2019 06:07AM

  Re: Noteboom is rolling the dice

Steve61November 09, 2019 08:44AM

  Re: Noteboom is rolling the dice

zn59November 09, 2019 09:00AM

  Re: Noteboom is rolling the dice

zn49November 09, 2019 08:58AM

  Re: Guards value

Steve55November 10, 2019 05:38AM

  I don’t know how this OL will shake out for ‘20...

Rams4387November 06, 2019 07:24AM

  Re: I don’t know how this OL will shake out for ‘20...

dzrams78November 06, 2019 07:56AM

  Re: I don’t know how this OL will shake out for ‘20...

Rams4374November 06, 2019 08:08AM

  doubt it

zn92November 06, 2019 08:27AM

  Re: doubt it

PHDram72November 06, 2019 08:40AM

  Re: doubt it

dzrams68November 06, 2019 08:54AM

  Re: doubt it

zn70November 06, 2019 08:58AM

  Re: Fair enough...

dzrams62November 06, 2019 09:26AM

  Re: Fair enough...

zn64November 06, 2019 09:31AM

  Re: doubt it

21Dog60November 07, 2019 04:08AM

  Roll of the dice....

LMU9354November 07, 2019 05:04AM

  Re: Roll of the dice....

zn64November 07, 2019 05:35AM

  Re: Roll of the dice....

LMU9353November 07, 2019 07:33AM

  Re: Roll of the dice....

dzrams59November 07, 2019 08:38AM

  Probably gonna be a ‘best 5’ will start scenario in ‘20...

Rams4354November 07, 2019 09:11AM

  will Noteboom miss OTAs?..

LMU9356November 07, 2019 09:38AM

  Re: will Noteboom miss OTAs?..

zn71November 08, 2019 07:12PM

  Re: will Noteboom miss OTAs?..

LMU9352November 09, 2019 04:44AM

  Thing Is

BC Ramsfan85November 08, 2019 10:10PM

  Re: Thing Is

zn75November 08, 2019 10:22PM

  I see them updating line in 2020

ferragamo7956November 09, 2019 06:41AM

  Re: I see them updating line in 2020

zn48November 09, 2019 06:54AM

  Re: I see them updating line in 2020

Rams4348November 09, 2019 07:20AM

  Here's the thing the Rams are not the Pats

ferragamo7946November 09, 2019 07:37AM

  and the Pats are just one convenient example of a common thing

zn57November 09, 2019 08:19AM

  Re: Yes---not vets to fill in on OL

Steve60November 09, 2019 02:45AM

  The issue will be the cost

RockRam148November 05, 2019 03:17PM

  Always hard to predict when Father time slams the door

Rams_8149November 09, 2019 08:41AM