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people often misuse the term "cherry picking"

September 12, 2019 12:58PM
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PHDram
So if your approaching this correctly why do you the rams rushed into signing him long term? Are they unaware of this slope? Are they ignoring it? Are there alternative explanations for the slope? Clearly they have a different take. What could it be?

Cherry picking cannot by definition happen if you chart every single game for an entire season plus.

Cherry picking means you don't consider data that counters your claim and focus only on data that confirms your claim.

If you compare EVERY GAME looking for trends, you simply are not and cannot be "cherry picking."

Cherry picking would be something like this: someone ignored the below avg. games and only pointed to the great games and said see, there's no issue.

That's the opposite of looking at EVERY GAME, and with objective eyes spotting BOTH positive and negative trends.

And it is NOT cherry picking to say "the team might have an alternative explanation." Assuming there is one (which I doubt--I agree with Max, they not only saw inconsistent games, they set up the offensive coaching this year to work on them, including going through progressions faster when the defense shows unexpected looks post-snap.)

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  Goff's last 20 games...

max874September 11, 2019 07:35AM

  not understanding the graph

ferragamo79217September 11, 2019 07:45AM

  Re: not understanding the graph

AlbaNY_Ram168September 11, 2019 08:00AM

  Re: not understanding the graph

Rampage2K-162September 11, 2019 08:12AM

  Re: not understanding the graph

AlbaNY_Ram138September 11, 2019 08:42AM

  Re: not understanding the graph

Rampage2K-112September 11, 2019 09:41AM

  Re: not understanding the graph

max159September 11, 2019 08:13AM

  Re: not understanding the graph

Rampage2K-111September 11, 2019 08:29AM

  Hey, you can interpret the data anyway you want

max113September 11, 2019 09:11AM

  Re: Hey, you can interpret the data anyway you want

Rampage2K-96September 11, 2019 09:48AM

  One of my favorite sayings from science is

RamUK94September 11, 2019 01:30PM

  thanks Max

ferragamo79106September 11, 2019 08:38AM

  Thats a fair assessment

max97September 11, 2019 09:14AM

  So how do you account for all the winning. NM

PHDram98September 11, 2019 08:28AM

  Re: Sean McKay

spagsbacker102September 11, 2019 10:13PM

  perhaps my memory is not as sharp

PHDram81September 12, 2019 04:24AM

  Up to week eleven it was outstanding

Hazlet Hacksaw113September 11, 2019 08:33AM

  Re: Up to week eleven it was outstanding

zn82September 11, 2019 07:46PM

  Re: Up to week eleven it was outstanding

max76September 12, 2019 02:29AM

  Goff himself called it rust

zn73September 12, 2019 12:31PM

  Re: Goff himself called it rust

LMU9374September 12, 2019 01:11PM

  Re: Goff himself called it rust

zn66September 12, 2019 01:16PM

  yeah, 79.6

max74September 12, 2019 01:35PM

  Re: yeah, 79.6

LMU9363September 13, 2019 07:16AM

  Re: Goff himself called it rust

moklerman60September 13, 2019 07:21AM

  Re: Goff himself called it rust

max74September 13, 2019 07:26AM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...

bigjimram21105September 11, 2019 08:38AM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...

Rampage2K-103September 11, 2019 09:44AM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...

bigjimram2162September 12, 2019 06:52AM

  Re: yeah its not a good trend

Speed_Kills120September 11, 2019 08:40AM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...

moklerman97September 11, 2019 10:58AM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...

sacram73September 11, 2019 11:18AM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...

Rampage2K-79September 11, 2019 11:23AM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...

moklerman81September 11, 2019 03:43PM

  The point is this...

max85September 11, 2019 03:57PM

  Re: Yeah Goff was very good against the Saints

Speed_Kills78September 13, 2019 07:29AM

  If you consider the playoff game in New Orleans a....

sacram79September 11, 2019 06:22PM

  Re: If you consider the playoff game in New Orleans a....

moklerman76September 11, 2019 10:02PM

  gotta break with you that one moklerman

Speed_Kills63September 13, 2019 07:32AM

  Re: gotta break with you that one moklerman

moklerman64September 13, 2019 08:03AM

  wow, I missed this, ok, time out...

max66September 13, 2019 08:03AM

  Re: wow, I missed this, ok, time out...

moklerman60September 13, 2019 08:09AM

  Yep, that’s what I thought you meant

max52September 13, 2019 09:28AM

  Re: Yep, that’s what I thought you meant

moklerman53September 13, 2019 09:42AM

  Goff's Passer rating last 20 games...

sacram127September 11, 2019 11:21AM

  Re: Goff's Passer rating last 20 games...

max94September 11, 2019 12:22PM

  Re: Goff's Passer rating last 20 games...

sacram83September 11, 2019 12:46PM

  Re: Goff's Passer rating last 20 games...

Suh-weet!73September 11, 2019 02:48PM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...

jim beam81September 11, 2019 12:03PM

  Not at all surprising

Suh-weet!150September 11, 2019 12:19PM

  Wrong

max107September 11, 2019 12:24PM

  Max: how about this?

BC Ramsfan107September 11, 2019 12:38PM

  Re: Max: how about this?

max82September 11, 2019 01:53PM

  Justr look at the graph

BC Ramsfan85September 11, 2019 02:02PM

  Re: Justr look at the graph

max94September 11, 2019 02:12PM

  I would not be so sure of that NM.

PHDram68September 11, 2019 03:53PM

  Re: I would not be so sure of that NM.

max86September 11, 2019 04:00PM

  thanks for the modified graph

BC Ramsfan76September 11, 2019 05:19PM

  Brash and mistaken is till mistaken, Max

Suh-weet!109September 11, 2019 02:14PM

  I have no idea what you're talking about. nm

max72September 11, 2019 02:17PM

  You could have just said so the first time, but... carry on. (nm)

Suh-weet!83September 11, 2019 02:18PM

  I'll know to ignore next time. thanks. nm

max65September 11, 2019 02:23PM

  Re: Brash and mistaken is till mistaken, Max

zn91September 11, 2019 07:37PM

  Re: Brash and mistaken is till mistaken, Max

max73September 12, 2019 02:27AM

  Why would you say that?

Suh-weet!58September 12, 2019 06:15PM

  I'm not going to run those numbers, but...

Suh-weet!75September 12, 2019 04:17AM

  Re: I'm not going to run those numbers, but...

zn74September 12, 2019 05:29AM

  claim away...

PHDram75September 12, 2019 05:46AM

  Re: claim away...

max70September 12, 2019 06:03AM

  hunh?

zn68September 12, 2019 06:04AM

  They ALL do. All 12 of them.

Suh-weet!57September 12, 2019 06:12PM

  Good lord, this is like the worst game of Clue....ever!

promomasterj104September 11, 2019 12:55PM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...

Hollywood Ram72September 11, 2019 01:19PM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...Too early for this stuff

BumRap86September 11, 2019 02:07PM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...Too early for this stuff

Rampage2K-84September 11, 2019 02:36PM

  Re: Bringing It, Bum Rap

leafnose52September 13, 2019 12:41PM

  100 percent with you

promomasterj82September 11, 2019 02:52PM

  The GOATs last 20 games...

DaJudge132September 11, 2019 03:00PM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...

Rams43132September 11, 2019 03:04PM

  Totally fair, 43

max97September 11, 2019 04:13PM

  More Kupp and Gurley will bring him back

Rams_8178September 11, 2019 04:20PM

  Here are Dak's and Watson's charts...

max153September 12, 2019 04:26AM

  Re: Here are Dak's and Watson's charts...have they been to a Super Bowl?

Rampage2K-89September 12, 2019 06:13AM

  So Rex Grossman is better than Philip Rivers?

max83September 12, 2019 07:03AM

  Re: So Rex Grossman is better than Philip Rivers?

moklerman76September 12, 2019 07:25AM

  Re: its really silly to me how people react to this stuff

Speed_Kills79September 12, 2019 07:58AM

  Thank you

max67September 12, 2019 08:06AM

  We can have disagreements on this board without people being "under attack".

Saguaro89September 12, 2019 08:10AM

  Re: speak

Speed_Kills78September 12, 2019 08:16AM

  Well, it's not as if I've been silent, and nobody has any idea what I think.

Saguaro77September 12, 2019 08:41AM

  Re: I had no idea what you thought until just now

Speed_Kills64September 12, 2019 09:09AM

  One quick add. I'm less interested in the Goff narrative than beating the Saints, period.

Saguaro77September 12, 2019 09:19AM

  I'm extremely interesting in winning this game, its huge

max60September 12, 2019 09:37AM

  Re: agreed... its about the win

Speed_Kills70September 12, 2019 09:50AM

  Yup...

max69September 12, 2019 10:12AM

  Re: Well, it's not as if I've been silent, and nobody has any idea what I think.

Rampage2K-65September 12, 2019 09:15AM

  Re: We can have disagreements on this board without people being "under attack".

max67September 12, 2019 08:32AM

  Re: So Rex Grossman is better than Philip Rivers?

Rampage2K-98September 12, 2019 09:10AM

  Some context

CeeZar90September 12, 2019 06:05AM

  Thats not context, that's cherry picking

max75September 12, 2019 07:00AM

  90 is the new 80

moklerman77September 12, 2019 07:20AM

  Re: 90 is the new 80

max77September 12, 2019 07:40AM

  Well, I will say this.

Saguaro68September 12, 2019 08:04AM

  I would be wrong too.

max66September 12, 2019 08:09AM

  I'm just not ready to make one game or even series of games the final answer.

Saguaro67September 12, 2019 08:14AM

  Re: I would be wrong too.

moklerman61September 12, 2019 08:15AM

  Re: It seems that Ram

Speed_Kills56September 12, 2019 06:29PM

  Re: 90 is the new 80

moklerman55September 12, 2019 08:05AM

  Re: Thats not context, that's cherry picking

CeeZar70September 12, 2019 07:48AM

  Re: Thats not context, that's cherry picking

max87September 12, 2019 07:54AM

  Re: Thats not context, that's cherry picking

PHDram79September 12, 2019 08:42AM

  Those are thoughtful questions

max73September 12, 2019 09:18AM

  Re: Those are thoughtful questions

PHDram68September 12, 2019 06:32PM

  Re: Thats not context, that's cherry picking

GroundPounder67September 12, 2019 10:06AM

  people often misuse the term "cherry picking"

zn73September 12, 2019 12:58PM

  Thinking too much

RFL144September 12, 2019 10:26AM

  Re: Thinking too much

max81September 12, 2019 11:01AM

  Re: Thinking too much

Atlantic Ram74September 12, 2019 02:04PM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...

george_allen71September 12, 2019 02:54PM

  Goff before and after BYE chart

max102September 13, 2019 04:33AM

  Re: wow look at that

Speed_Kills84September 13, 2019 05:10AM

  wow...what a revelation

Rampage2K-79September 13, 2019 05:31AM

  Re: wow...what a revelation

max75September 13, 2019 05:39AM

  not really

PHDram68September 13, 2019 06:26AM

  Re: not really

max65September 13, 2019 06:38AM

  Re: not really

PHDram67September 13, 2019 06:55AM

  Ah, there's the confusion

max54September 13, 2019 11:18AM

  This is getting fun now. Attachments

Saguaro106September 13, 2019 06:30AM

  Re: This is getting fun now.

max81September 13, 2019 06:41AM

  the goat Attachments

PHDram108September 13, 2019 08:37AM

  Keep in mind...

moklerman68September 13, 2019 08:51AM

  Those games are not comparable

CeeZar82September 13, 2019 09:28AM

  Does that work both ways?

moklerman64September 13, 2019 09:47AM

  Re: Does that work both ways?

Rampage2K-68September 13, 2019 10:14AM

  Re: Does that work both ways?

moklerman58September 13, 2019 10:24AM

  Re: Does that work both ways?

Rampage2K-67September 13, 2019 10:34AM

  Re: Does that work both ways?

moklerman57September 13, 2019 10:58AM

  Re: the bottom line is

Speed_Kills67September 13, 2019 11:24AM

  Yeah, well...maybe you're right. Attachments

Saguaro68September 13, 2019 01:06PM

  Re: On Sunday hes going to do his thing

Speed_Kills62September 13, 2019 04:28PM

  Re: the bottom line is

Rampage2K-70September 13, 2019 02:12PM

  Re: the bottom line is

Speed_Kills55September 13, 2019 04:26PM

  Re: the bottom line is

Rampage2K-60September 13, 2019 05:01PM

  No one's demanding 350/3

moklerman61September 13, 2019 05:18PM

  Re: I don't think the Chiefs sold out to stop the run

Speed_Kills63September 13, 2019 11:20AM

  Re: the goat

max75September 13, 2019 11:05AM

  Re: the goat

PHDram71September 13, 2019 11:46AM

  Re: the goat

max71September 13, 2019 03:09PM

  Were all agreed on that last statement. NM

PHDram53September 13, 2019 03:54PM

  Re: the goat

zn65September 13, 2019 04:48PM

  Re: the goat

max62September 13, 2019 06:08PM

  Re: the goat

zn63September 13, 2019 06:27PM