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September 10, 2019 12:13PM
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In involves the Law of Recency which essentially says that recent experiences come to our memories more easily than those in the past.(The Law of Recency refers to the observation that memories of recent experiences come to mind more easily than memories from the distant past (T. Brown, 1824; Calkins, 1896). Given the ubiquitous nature of recency across time-scales, memory tasks, and stimulus materials, it is not surprising that it has occupied center stage in theoretical analyses of memory over many decades (Crowder, 1976).)

We hold what we most recently have observed to be the truth as opposed to what we once held to be the truth. I.e. "my present girlfriend is so much prettier than my last one".

You guys are completely missing the point....it has nothing to do with trying to compare Goff to Warner in totality ....its about comparing where they are/were at age 24 in there football lives.

to use your analogy, all we can hope is that our new girlfriend ends up being way hotter than our old one at this point......and that the relationship last much longer.spin tounge smiley

And another thing.

Warner wasn't WARNER at 24. Brady wasn't BRADY at 24. We can agree on these things.

But it's not just that. In retrospect we can go back and say that the "seeds" of WARNER and BRADY were visible when they were 24. But. in real time, the seeds of THAT kind of greatness obviously were visible to almost anyone, including the vast majority of people paid handsomely for finding future NFL superstars.

And will Goff be as good as WARNER some day? Probably not? But I - and most of us - can say that with some confidence simply because, 1) he's obviously not as good yet; 2) very few QBs developed into a WARNER. That's it. It's not about all the things he can't do, doesn't do, will "never" do... Given that most of us would agree that Goff at 24 is better than Warner was at 24, seems awfully odd to point to Goff's weaknesses and insist on THAT basis that Goff could never be as good as WARNER.

I think he's very good now, mediocre performances like yesterday's notwithstanding, and very much look forward to seeing him develop into a player a few insist he can never become.
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  Goff

Ramsfan691940September 08, 2019 05:29PM

  Re: Goff

Classicalwit494September 08, 2019 05:35PM

  Re: Its one game and he didn't play in the preseason

Speed_Kills472September 08, 2019 05:41PM

  Re: Its one game and he didn't play in the preseason

Classicalwit444September 08, 2019 05:51PM

  Hasn't this been the ongoing conversation?

moklerman415September 08, 2019 11:32PM

  in fairness

RamUK415September 09, 2019 07:22AM

  Re: Goff

zn485September 08, 2019 05:44PM

  Well, yeah, but he confuses me.

JamesJM400September 08, 2019 05:55PM

  Re: Well, yeah, but he confuses me.

zn346September 08, 2019 07:37PM

  Re: Goff

Classicalwit360September 08, 2019 06:12PM

  So...

Saguaro369September 08, 2019 07:16PM

  Re: Goff

zn373September 08, 2019 07:41PM

  Goff just seemed rusty...

Rams43664September 08, 2019 07:31PM

  a bit of rust...

LMU93458September 09, 2019 04:07AM

  here's the test for me...try it at home next game...

SunTzu_vs_Camus398September 09, 2019 07:20AM

  Goff is better than Warner ?

waterfield342September 09, 2019 08:01AM

  nw...waterfield

SunTzu_vs_Camus388September 09, 2019 08:06AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?/ Not

jim beam340September 09, 2019 08:14AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?/ Not

waterfield356September 09, 2019 09:31AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

Rampage2K-336September 09, 2019 08:15AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

jim beam476September 09, 2019 08:35AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

moklerman315September 09, 2019 09:57AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

Rampage2K-309September 09, 2019 10:00AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

moklerman504September 09, 2019 10:28AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

Rampage2K-286September 09, 2019 10:55AM

  Re: 2K seriously what are you doing man

Speed_Kills292September 09, 2019 11:57AM

  Re: 2K seriously what are you doing man

stlramz281September 09, 2019 12:01PM

  Re: ok but at 24

Speed_Kills454September 09, 2019 12:06PM

  Re: ok but at 24

stlramz259September 09, 2019 12:18PM

  Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

JamesJM294September 09, 2019 12:10PM

  Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

zn315September 10, 2019 03:58AM

  Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

JamesJM310September 10, 2019 05:01AM

  Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

Rampage2K-438September 10, 2019 05:48AM

  I don't deny the development... but lets look at the whole picture..

JamesJM284September 10, 2019 05:56AM

  Re: Good job Jim! nm

Speed_Kills249September 10, 2019 05:58AM

  Re: I don't deny the development... but lets look at the whole picture..

Rampage2K-297September 10, 2019 06:03AM

  Re: I don't deny the development... but lets look at the whole picture..

zn310September 10, 2019 06:24AM

  Well, just one more comment...

JamesJM267September 10, 2019 06:30AM

  Re: Well, just one more comment...

zn304September 10, 2019 06:33AM

  Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

zn425September 10, 2019 05:52AM

  Re: 2K seriously what are you doing man

Rampage2K-283September 09, 2019 01:23PM

  I will make this really easy for you...what was Warner doing at 23-24???

Rampage2K-525September 09, 2019 01:22PM

  Re: this is one weird thread

Speed_Kills370September 09, 2019 11:16AM

  It's not at all surprising Speed

waterfield553September 09, 2019 12:13PM

  Re: I guess but...

Speed_Kills298September 09, 2019 12:22PM

  Actually, if I err...

JamesJM278September 09, 2019 12:24PM

  Re: It's not at all surprising Speed

Rampage2K-280September 09, 2019 02:07PM

  I'm with you

Suh-weet!262September 10, 2019 12:13PM

  naw

zn287September 10, 2019 04:02AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

Steve266September 10, 2019 05:17AM

  Story has just begun for Goff...

Suh-weet!383September 10, 2019 12:18PM

  Re: Story has just begun for Goff...

kw13567September 10, 2019 01:01PM

  Re: Story has just begun for Goff...

Rampage2K-486September 10, 2019 01:14PM

  Drew Brees at age 24

Suh-weet!298September 10, 2019 03:39PM

  Re: Drew Brees at age 24

CraigMatson257September 10, 2019 07:34PM

  Re: you lost me by saying he is better than Warner

Speed_Kills269September 09, 2019 11:10AM

  I'm sure I lost a lotta folks with that one!!! lol

SunTzu_vs_Camus300September 09, 2019 11:51AM

  I wouldn't take Mahomes over Warner...

JamesJM430September 09, 2019 11:57AM

  Re: I wouldn't take Mahomes over Warner either

Speed_Kills379September 09, 2019 12:00PM

  Re: I wouldn't take Mahomes over Warner either

zn279September 09, 2019 12:24PM

  Re: I wouldn't take Mahomes over Warner...

Classicalwit258September 09, 2019 12:10PM

  Re: the example you gave is a good one

Speed_Kills418September 09, 2019 12:17PM

  this is how the Goff/Warner comparison discussions always go

zn336September 09, 2019 01:12PM

  yeah, good breakdown of the miscommunication...

SunTzu_vs_Camus280September 10, 2019 03:45AM

  Re: this is how the Goff/Warner comparison discussions always go

stlramz441September 10, 2019 07:54AM

  Re: this is how the Goff/Warner comparison discussions always go

zn501September 10, 2019 02:41PM

  Sorry to puncture your carton of juice....

NewMexicoRam328September 10, 2019 02:54PM

  Re: Sorry to puncture your carton of juice....

zn251September 11, 2019 06:13AM

  Re: Goff

BeachBoy291September 09, 2019 01:27PM

  Re: Goff

CraigMatson461September 10, 2019 05:16AM

  Re: Goff

zn307September 10, 2019 05:27AM