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Re: You know what-this all comes down to one word-"injury"

June 10, 2019 07:20AM
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waterfield
there could be no trauma associated "structural damage" such as in a fracture, tear, etc BUT a player, writer, other lay people could easily claim that they have an injury if -whatever it is-simply "flares" up now and then. Sometimes my right knee causes me to limp around in the morning after getting up. When my wife asks what's wrong I've often said it feels like I "injured" it when technically there's been no trauma. That's because it feels "injured". Seems to me that this is a circular "debate" over one word.

Yeah whoever is conflating things is being kind of careless.

Basically, MJD said TG played "with an injury" all year which he got in game one. The way he is saying that it means some kind of physical trauma from some kind of impact. The problem with that is, Rams say that did not happen, that there was no structural issue, and so they did not report it and they did not treat any injury of that sort.

What appears to have ACTUALLY happened is that something with TG's surgical knee flared up once, calmed down, then flared up again. That's just not an "injury" in the usual sense. In fact that can happen with arthritic knees, among other possible conditions.

That is different from "playing with an injury" the usual way that is meant. It's a condition (same thing used to happen to Faulk in fact). It could be arthritic, it could be a couple of other things with a surgical knee. AND---teams are not required to report that.

Now notice what is happening in the discussion. Some actually ARE accepting the idea that TG had some kind of physical trauma, he got it in the Oakland game, it persisted all year, and yes that would be some kind of big sprain, deep bone bruise, rip, tear, or break---the normal "injury" thing. But all indications are nothing like that happened. So now because MJD is misinterpreting this whole thing and saying TG GOT INJURED in the Oakland game, we have a kind of confused discussion in the thread---some saying yes that MUST HAVE happened (why? because ex-jock reporters are never wrong? I don't know why some accept this at face value). some saying maybe the Rams lied, and so on. All because (as I see it) MJD just misspoke.

Distinctions do matter. If I had an arthritic knee and it acted up, and I went to the doctor and said "I have a knee injury," once he got a look at me he would correct my usage. He'd say, no, you did not INJURE your knee, you have an arthritiic condition, it's different. We do not normally call underlying conditions like that "injuries."

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/10/2019 07:24AM by zn.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Maurice Jones-Drew: Todd Gurley Was Playing Through Knee Injury All Season

RamBill616June 07, 2019 08:25AM

  Maybe it's not arthritis

promomasterj217June 07, 2019 08:42AM

  Re: Maybe it's not arthritis

MamaRAMa195June 07, 2019 08:51AM

  Re: Maybe it's not arthritis

Steve170June 07, 2019 08:56AM

  Maybe the team violated that?

promomasterj154June 07, 2019 08:58AM

  Re: Maybe it's not arthritis

zn133June 07, 2019 09:36AM

  Multiple definitions of "injury"

waterfield115June 07, 2019 09:51AM

  not in this case

zn80June 07, 2019 10:44AM

  Re: Maybe it's not arthritis

Steve26June 10, 2019 10:15PM

  Maybe Gurley remained mum...

jemach29June 10, 2019 07:54AM

  it probably IS something like arthritis and MJD is wrong

zn110June 07, 2019 09:31AM

  One of you two have actually spoke with Todd Gurley

LBRamsFan102June 07, 2019 12:55PM

  sorry he's wrong

zn110June 07, 2019 01:26PM

  Re: One of you two have actually spoke with Todd Gurley

Classicalwit71June 09, 2019 03:57AM

  Re: One of you two have actually spoke with Todd Gurley

max68June 09, 2019 05:34AM

  Re: One of you two have actually spoke with Todd Gurley

zn68June 09, 2019 05:45AM

  on top of it

zn60June 09, 2019 06:15AM

  Paper analysis v field data

max47June 10, 2019 02:00AM

  Re: Paper analysis v field data

Classicalwit31June 10, 2019 03:59AM

  Re: Paper analysis v field data

zn36June 10, 2019 04:05AM

  His knee flared up...but it wasn't injured...???

jemach35June 10, 2019 07:56AM

  Re: His knee flared up...but it wasn't injured...???

zn37June 10, 2019 08:11AM

  that's probably not accurate

zn149June 07, 2019 09:29AM

  MJD said what he said - no need to spin it

promomasterj143June 07, 2019 10:46AM

  I didn't say it was spin, I said he is wrong

zn116June 07, 2019 10:51AM

  No, you're calling MJD a liar

moklerman109June 10, 2019 12:01AM

  Re: No, you're calling MJD a liar

Classicalwit79June 10, 2019 03:51AM

  If I meant that I would have said it

zn78June 10, 2019 04:07AM

  are the rams liars?

PHDram47June 10, 2019 05:37AM

  Re: are the rams liars?

zn52June 10, 2019 05:53AM

  Re: are the rams liars?

PHDram29June 10, 2019 06:54AM

  You know what-this all comes down to one word-"injury"

waterfield34June 10, 2019 06:45AM

  Re: You know what-this all comes down to one word-"injury"

zn29June 10, 2019 07:20AM

  The battle between Verbs and Adverbs

waterfield27June 10, 2019 07:44AM

  Re: The battle between Verbs and Adverbs

zn28June 10, 2019 07:53AM

  I'll say this about flare up vs. injury...

jemach38June 10, 2019 08:09AM

  Re: I'll say this about flare up vs. injury...

zn24June 10, 2019 08:14AM

  Re: Maurice Jones-Drew: Todd Gurley Was Playing Through Knee Injury All Season

Glyndwr7132June 10, 2019 07:09AM

  Re: Maurice Jones-Drew: Todd Gurley Was Playing Through Knee Injury All Season

zn35June 10, 2019 07:39AM

  Re: Maurice Jones-Drew: Todd Gurley Was Playing Through Knee Injury All Season

bigjimram2137June 10, 2019 02:02PM

  Great to know we have a lot of MDs on the board...

jemach44June 10, 2019 07:50AM

  Re: Great to know we have a lot of MDs on the board...

zn49June 10, 2019 08:02AM

  Re: Great to know we have a lot of MDs on the board...

waterfield48June 10, 2019 08:48AM

  yes it does matter, my friend

zn44June 10, 2019 10:27AM

  Also great to instantly dismiss a former pro-bowl NFL RB's reporting

promomasterj57June 10, 2019 10:21AM

  naw

zn58June 10, 2019 10:33AM

  Re: naw

waterfield45June 10, 2019 12:36PM

  semantics

zn25June 10, 2019 01:24PM

  "Reports" don't equal "facts"

moklerman38June 10, 2019 03:48PM

  then what are we arguing about?

zn44June 10, 2019 04:28PM

  Re: then what are we arguing about?

moklerman33June 10, 2019 05:11PM

  Re: then what are we arguing about?

zn37June 10, 2019 05:31PM

  Re: then what are we arguing about?

moklerman26June 10, 2019 08:23PM

  Alternative explanations

PHDram44June 10, 2019 05:52PM

  Re: Alternative explanations

zn55June 10, 2019 05:56PM

  Sure

PHDram41June 10, 2019 06:18PM

  Re: Sure

zn47June 10, 2019 06:26PM

  You asked

PHDram45June 10, 2019 06:42PM

  Re: You asked

zn52June 10, 2019 06:50PM