QuoteRams43 FWIW, I am on record as saying that both McVay and Goff could have done a better job of getting the ball to Watkins. I recall having a discussion where we went round and round where you stated that Watkins was solely to blame for his subpar production. I think we agreed to disagree. Lol I'll have to update my memory on your position now.... I believe all 3 were a big factor inby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRampage2K- Quotedzrams QuoteRampage2K- Quotedzrams You are actually speaking truth. And not just according to Dz.... McVay, in several interviews, has essentially said that he takes some of the blame for Watkins' subpar production because he didn't fully utilize his skill set. The reason he didn't use his full skill set is obvious but the contingent who want to believe that McVay andby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
But is it true? I don't know about for the rest of the league but for Snead, those type of safeties do seem to grow on trees. McLeod Joyner JJ III That's 3 safeties in 4 years who can all cover very well. Contrast that to the last time the Rams had a WR with Sammy's skill set. I'm sorry but WR's with elite skill sets are more rare than safeties who can cover. If that safby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRampage2K- Quotedzrams You are actually speaking truth. And not just according to Dz.... McVay, in several interviews, has essentially said that he takes some of the blame for Watkins' subpar production because he didn't fully utilize his skill set. The reason he didn't use his full skill set is obvious but the contingent who want to believe that McVay and Goff can do no wrong seeminby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Quotedzrams QuoteRams43 Somehow he seems to have been elevated to superstar status, but without the superstar production. Check out his career stats. Are those superstar numbers? Seriously? I think most of the discussion here has centered on Watkins being Tier 2 WR status - not superstar - based on his elite skill set and production. I've posted this several times with nby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
You are actually speaking truth. And not just according to Dz.... McVay, in several interviews, has essentially said that he takes some of the blame for Watkins' subpar production because he didn't fully utilize his skill set. The reason he didn't use his full skill set is obvious but the contingent who want to believe that McVay and Goff can do no wrong seemingly don't see it.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Somehow he seems to have been elevated to superstar status, but without the superstar production. Check out his career stats. Are those superstar numbers? Seriously? I think most of the discussion here has centered on Watkins being Tier 2 WR status - not superstar - based on his elite skill set and production. I've posted this several times with no response from you butby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteEastRam Quotedzrams QuoteEastRam Oh wow. Crap. We gotta get more targets for Watkins. If we do we could lead the league in scoring. Crap our mistake Yeah, we scored the most points in the league (actually #3 but close to #1) but does that mean the offense can't be better? According to DVOA, they were the 6th most efficient offense. Further, the offense struggled some against toby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteEastRam Oh wow. Crap. We gotta get more targets for Watkins. If we do we could lead the league in scoring. Crap our mistake Yeah, we scored the most points in the league (actually #3 but close to #1) but does that mean the offense can't be better? According to DVOA, they were the 6th most efficient offense. Further, the offense struggled some against top defenses. Why not iby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRampage2K- Quotedzrams Joyner is very good but he's the easiest to replace. According to you Listening to the all of show with writers, players, GM's today though, they seem to think the Rams tagged the right player and said Joyner was the ONE the needed to get back.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Joyner is very good but he's the easiest to replace.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRampage2K- It's a "dime a dozen position" now? That's funny. I've listed several examples of Snead finding DBs. Do you have anything?by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
It just seems to me that's it's pretty easy for Snead to find good safties. TJ McDonald wasn't bad McLeod was really good as a UDFA Alexander was very good in 2016 in GW's scheme. He didn't fit with Wade. Joyner as a 2nd round pick was the most they have spent on safety JJ III was very good in his rookie season That's 4-5 above average safties all within the last 4 years. It's a dime-by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
For the thousandth time, this isn't about free agency. This is about retaining players. Why is it so hard to stay on topic? Also is it too much to ask for a response to the merits of what I said? This was not solely a complaint about pre-Fisher transactions. Maybe you missed the part about AO. That just happened last year under McVay. There is a pattern that continued under McVay.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRockRam If you'll listen carefully, it is DA's side that has much to do with holding things up because he and Kalil Mack's contract are both up at the same time, and both want to become the highest paid defensive player. How do you do that? So, Mack's agent and Donald's agents are slow rolling things to see who blinks first. Whoever gets the contract done first, will be the highest paidby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
I'd rank Gaines behind your first three but ahead of Colvin and Breeland. Colvin's issue is he's been in the slot. Outside corners are paid more. I hope you're right on Sammy.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRam Fan Teacher It Sammy is saying the future is bright and assuming this is in relation to football, wouldn't it have to do with the Rams??? Otherwise it would be tampering, correct? Again, he might be tweeting this in response to something non-football related but if he isn't....:)-D QuoteAt this point, the agent is recounting leaving the combine in Indianapolis, with a week left befoby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
I like McVay, I'm happy with him. My dissatisfaction with the Rams has nothing to do with McVay. He doesn't do contracts! Contracts were a problem before McVay and IMO remain a problem. You say the team doesn't overpay under McVay? Yeah, they do. Ogletree is overpaid. Does anyone really think that AO is the best ILB in the league? Anyone!!!??? He's the highest paid ILB in the leagueby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuotePHDram true, but if the contract is so large that the rams are unwilling to sign it, its likely to net a 3rd rounder. ok..what is gaines likely to net? a sixth? you can add it into the equation but the difference is likely to be negligible imo Quotedzrams The 2019 pick isn't guaranteed. That depends on if the Rams sign any free agents themselves. You say that Gaines would have beenby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
The 2019 pick isn't guaranteed. That depends on if the Rams sign any free agents themselves. You say that Gaines would have been gone this year but don't factor in the comp. pick he would have gotten them. Wouldn't the 2019 3rd round Gaines comp. pick cancel out the comp. pick from Watkins?by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRampage2K- Quotedzrams You forgot Quinn. Other than that, I agree with you. They take too long to decide who they want to retain or they wait too long in the process to get serious. Or they don't offer enough. With JJ, the rumor was that they were offering $9M. An obvious low ball. It's definitely an organizational weakness. I don't think there is a team in the league with moby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
If a player doesn't want to be there, you can't force them. But I think they need to take a page from NE's book and trade those players early. Decide early who is part of the core and who is willing to sign an extension. If the player doesn't fit in both of those categories they get traded like Buffalo died with Watkins and NE with Chandler Jones. Be decisive!by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Can one be good at signing free agents and drafting players while simultaneously being bad at retaining players? Criticism in one aspect has nothing to do with the other aspects.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteoldschoolramfan Bummed that dzrams can't see the trees through the forest.............. Of course they're gonna say "we're still trying." I'd love to be wrong but he's gone.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuotePHDram Does not make a trend. What I stated is the league wide norm. It's not conclusive; it's just the odds are against them.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Never said they had more power. Come on. Fisher had the most power in determining who he wanted to retain. He had already given the edict to keep JJ. That's an established fact. He didn't do negotiations and neither does McVay.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuotePHDram Having a bad day? I think history shows that when players hit free agency, they are most likely to not be back. It also shows that when players are franchised, it's harder to work out a long term contract. They'll likely need the tag next year for AD.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 He might still ultimately like the Rams over all other offers. After he tests the market he and his agent might get a reality check. He might like the Rams, after all. The Rams are a good fit for him unless he insists upon being the 100 catch 1500 yard WR. Being a part of a winning organization and playing for amazing coaches and with excellent teammates has it’s own rewards.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
I know we don't wanna blame Demoff and Snead because any weaknesses in them takes away hope for our future prospects, but contracts have always been in their department. It's not the coaches... that's well established with literally dozens of articles.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Watkins this year, Joyner next year.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com