QuotePHDram i can live with that. i was trying to fit both tru and watkins in. remember, with AO the rams lose leadership in the locker room. tru was voted team captain. but if they sign barwin i dont think you can afford tru. that could be a big void if they both leave. they would need to go with someone like breeland or amukamara. and yes i think another cb is almost a certainty. Quotedby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotelaram Quotedzrams QuoteBlue and Gold QuotePHDram Maybe. I was thinking of longacre as more of a placeholder until we can fill the position with an impact player. Harold Landry? Can Leighton Vander Esch play on the outside? Maybe they need to wait until 2019? If not they could resign barwin. In any even it almost seem like longacre and ebukan should switch positions. Rams are in positby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteBlue and Gold QuotePHDram Maybe. I was thinking of longacre as more of a placeholder until we can fill the position with an impact player. Harold Landry? Can Leighton Vander Esch play on the outside? Maybe they need to wait until 2019? If not they could resign barwin. In any even it almost seem like longacre and ebukan should switch positions. Rams are in position to win now, and I dby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteDeadpool the end of November to be correct. That is less then 5 months ago. You want to tempt fate with MP, fine. But adding Talib's brand of crazy to the lockerroom without Quinn and Tree is just asking for it. I know AO was. When they traded for Peters, McVay mentioned AO, Donald, and Barwin by name as strong leaders in the locker room. The subtraction of AO is one of the reasby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
I'd only be interested in Murphy. McVay would be familiar with him and he was very productive prior to his injury. I also think they bring Barwin back for another year.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
The upper management team of Demoff, Snead, and Pastoors has made some questionable to bad decisions in which players they give extensions to and for how much. From what I can tell, the HC says X player is really important, I want to retain him. Then the coach relies on that upper management team to get it done. That's how it was reported to happen in the JJ case. But someone bungled thatby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
He was going to play out his 5th year with or without the extension.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotejemach Demoff? Snead? No...it "gave them flexibility!" Nice admission. But when have you seen a trade of a player 6 months after he signed a 4 year extension? That action is essentially an admission that the extension was a mistake. No one is gonna stand in front of the public and give you more than that.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotejemach The Rams said signing Ogletree last year gave us flexibility. Well...I'm not sure how much it ate into our rollover number from last year but we are eating $6 million this year. So...are a 4th and 6th worth $6 million? If we didn't sign Ogletree, he could have walked. We would then have the cap space we have now after the trade plus. I'm just asking...now is the time to anby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteBlue and Gold but it is very rare to get a player. Antonio Brown and Alfred Morris are rare, rare, rale we will have 5 6ths when it is all said and done. Would be extremely lucky if we were to get one starter out of those. Odds go up some of we took the 2 higher 6ths and get a 5th. Again, odds low. Players come from premium rounds. 1-3 sometimes some 4ths... They also may better offby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotelaram I hear this every year that this group or that group is deep in the draft...it rarely turns out that way.. Who do you like at corner in FA or the draft? Free agency: Breeland Rashan Melvin Kyle Fuller (got transition tagged so Bears could match) Colvin Butler TruJ Ross Cockrell (budget signing similar to Webster last year) Talib (trade target only b/c he's played for Waby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotelaram In revamping the O, Robert was a free agent who fit the offense and was a good player that had been underutilized in Buffalo. The receiver class was very deep in the draft so they knew they could get Kupp and a te. It was no secret in NFL circles that Buffalo was shopping Sammy so that bounced their way. LB and corner class deep this year? What FA's do you see that you likeby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn Quotedzrams Quotestlramz if there was less "dead" money that would make a lot more sense. i like the idea of maintain control over players that have trade value but dead money over 5M starts giving me pause. that said, a good argument can be made that a 4th and 6th round pick is worth the $, if they stick as they won't take up any cap space essentially. It could just bby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotestlramz if there was less "dead" money that would make a lot more sense. i like the idea of maintain control over players that have trade value but dead money over 5M starts giving me pause. that said, a good argument can be made that a 4th and 6th round pick is worth the $, if they stick as they won't take up any cap space essentially. It could just be spin. I guess we'lby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Alden Gonzalez@Alden_Gonzalez Some insight into the Rams’ thinking on trading Alec Ogletree: They believe last year’s defense had a lot of 4-3 players who didn’t necessarily fit into Wade Phillips’ 3-4 scheme, Ogletree (and Robert Quinn, dealt to the Dolphins) among them. Signing Ogletree to an extension gave them down-the-road flexibility at that time, which they have now used to reby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotecool_hand_luke They signed him to the deal to gain cap space in the present. They could have just let him walk and had more cap space. They are eating $6.4M by doing it this way.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLos Angeles Lenny What is taking so long to trade Barron and Austin? Lol Great day in Hornsville Guys! Snead has a plan! That's my official position. Now watch that change by 6pm today.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotejemach I mean Wade Philips worked with him for months...the deal wasn't signed until October. Demoff is going to have to start getting it right. This trade is admitting their error. I'm just glad they have admitted it quickly. It is time to turn a critical eye to the player extension/retention guy whoever it is. If it's Demoff he may need to delegate that duty.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSpeed_Kills not sure what going on with people coming after you on this stuff you have been very clear and I agree with you they have extended the wrong players often - this move was clearly a dump move Tree is clearly an example of that I've been critical of past Rams decision making lately. Doing that will never gonna win any popularity contests especially after our most successfulby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Here's an article from PFF that shows that he's been a league leader in missed tackles for several years. Most Missed Tackles in Run Defense His bad tackling predated the 3-4 D which subtracts from his value. He's also among the highest paid LB's in the game. What is a highly paid, tackle missing ILB/MLB worth? I'm glad they got a 4th and 6th because my guess would have been a 6th.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRampage2K- Quotedzrams Crazy news! Things are starting to make more sense. He was not a fit in a 3-4 and not a GREAT LB. Unfortunately, they eat $6.4M in signing bonus money. When a player is traded, the prorated amount accelerates onto this year's cap. Confused Here's a link of the CBA. Under the Section Salary Cap Accounting Rules, subsection Acceleration (page 108 of theby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamUK McVay and Phillips gave the guy a year in a new system and decided to move on, what on earth is there to complain about with that??? Letting him play a year in the system isn't the issue. Extending him was the error. My complaints with player retention was they were extending the wrong guys. AO was Exhibit C. I feel justified b/c it looks like they're admitting that to be theby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLMU93 I thought Barron and Ogletree could have remained as is if the Rams had added a bigger, better NT up front. Never mind now....by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Quotedzrams QuoteRam49 He was missing tackles in every game. He should be given a kudos for playing out of position, but he clearly was not made to play inside Who can forget the infamous 3rd and a mile tackle he blatantly missed that cost us the game......? According to PFF, AO has been a league leader in missed tackles for several years now including when he was in a 4-3 D.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRam49 Both were playing out of position. Good guy and teammate....but not an ILB by any stretch. Looks like they will be trying to package picks for a move up on LBers...... AO was a league leader in missed tackles. Barron was actually a league leader in stuffs at one point but he's also out of position a lot due to his size. Anyway, I remember discussions last year about Wade'sby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRam49 He was missing tackles in every game. He should be given a kudos for playing out of position, but he clearly was not made to play inside Who can forget the infamous 3rd and a mile tackle he blatantly missed that cost us the game......? According to PFF, AO has been a league leader in missed tackles for several years now including when he was in a 4-3 D. The Rams should have alby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Crazy news! Things are starting to make more sense. He was not a fit in a 3-4 and not a GREAT LB. Unfortunately, they eat $6.4M in signing bonus money. When a player is traded, the prorated amount accelerates onto this year's cap.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRampage2K- QuoteLos Angeles Lenny anybody anybody at all? Bennett is a mouth but he can play and he had three years left ON A CONTRACT THAT WAS "ONLY" PAYING HIM 7.4 MILLION A YEAR. Yesterday I made the comment that they should fire Demoff and hire Manning this is why. Tavon Austin has a bigger contract than Micheal Bennet, Robert Quinn has a bigger contract than Bennett, Barron haby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Good post, good point. Question though... not saying all the stuff you mentioned is not true but you don't think one of the major reasons for the Pats winning is because they have one of the greatest coaches and QB's of all time?by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Davante Adams - 2811 receiving yards, 26 TDs in four seasons. Sammy Watkins - 3052 receiving yards, 25 TDs in four seasons Watkins posted his numbers in 52 games versus Adams' 59 games... The above is production. This discussion isn't about potential. On Joyner, I'm not tearing him down at all. I love Joyner. I am saying that Snead seems to find that position very easily AND theby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com