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Re: from my fiancee, a critical care emt, former flight emt, and a RN

January 03, 2023 02:14PM
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Deadpool
the hit caused commotio cordis. basically, hit in the chest at just the right time. Causing cardiac arrest.

She said they would immediately intubate him, which was confirmed. At the hospital, she is guessing they induced hypothermia, which buys time for the heart to heal. She's guessing at 48 hrs they will start warming him up. And just an FYI, he's in a coma, not just sedated. This is all standard procedure.

Her concern is the 4 min. it took to get his heart restarted.

Just thought I'd share what Ronna was sharing with me for those concerned.


First of all...CONGRATULATIONS on your engagement. In the words of the late, great Tupac Shakur:

Congratulations on the weddin'
I hope your wife know, she got a playa' for life
and that's no bull-shi__n"


Anyways...

Here's some more information on the condition your fiancee mentioned...

Damar Hamlin’s Cardiac Arrest: What We Know and Don’t Know
Cardiac doctors say that blows to the chest causing an erratic heart rhythm are highly unusual, but not unheard-of in sports.

By Gina Kolata
Jan. 3, 2023
Updated 4:02 p.m. ET


A freakish accident may explain the cause of the cardiac arrest that sent Damar Hamlin of the Buffalo Bills to the ground during a football game on Monday night, five cardiac experts said.

It is not yet known why Mr. Hamlin’s heart stopped about nine minutes into the game against the Cincinnati Bengals. But his youth, health and other circumstances could mean that a blow to his chest during a collision with a receiver on the opposing team sent his heart into an erratic rhythm known as an arrhythmia.

Dr. Aaron Baggish, a sports cardiologist at Harvard Medical School who has worked with the New England Patriots, cautions that, while a blow to the chest “is definitely a front-runner” to explain what occurred on Monday, “it is premature to be definite.” Mr. Hamlin, he said, will most likely undergo extensive testing to be sure there was no other cause.

For an arrhythmia to occur, there has to be what Dr. Baggish called “a perfect storm” — the chest must be struck in a precise place at a precise moment while the heart is relaxing after squeezing out blood, and with the right amount of force.

“It’s not rare, but it’s pretty unusual,” said Dr. Michael Mack, the chairman of cardiovascular services at Baylor Scott & White Health in Dallas. Most documented incidents have occurred in baseball when a player has been struck in the chest by a ball, and it has also occurred in lacrosse and hockey. Chest protectors did not prevent the incidents in those sports. Dr. Baggish said he would not count on football pads either, saying that to his knowledge, “no commercially marketed pads for any sport guarantee complete protection.”

Dr. Mack added that “the force of a blow can go right through” a pad.

There is just a 20-millisecond interval in the heart’s cycle when a strong blow can cause an arrhythmia, said Dr. Javid Moslehi, a cardiologist at the University of California San Francisco School of Medicine.

Shortly after Mr. Hamlin, 24, collapsed, medical personnel at the game administered cardiopulmonary resuscitation for nine minutes as they tried to keep blood moving through his body. When his heart rhythm was restored, they took Mr. Hamlin to the University of Cincinnati Medical Center, where he remains in critical condition.

It is normal to put patients like Mr. Hamlin on a respirator, Dr. Mack said. But, he added, “if he is still on the respirator today, that means he has not awakened.”

The concern is whether, during those long minutes before Mr. Hamlin’s heart rhythm returned, when his heart was not pumping normally, a lack of blood damaged his brain, heart experts said. If a patient in cardiac arrest does not recover right away, doctors will often induce a coma to give the brain a chance to rest, Dr. Mack said. Sometimes doctors also cool the brain to slow its metabolism while it recovers, using cooling blankets — which have coils that circulate chilled water — and headpieces.

“The more concern there is about brain injury, the more aggressive doctors are about sedation and hypothermia,” Dr. Mack added. If Mr. Hamlin remains unconscious from 72 to 96 hours after his cardiac arrest, “there is a real concern,” Dr. Mack said.

Other athletes, like marathoners, have collapsed and even died when their hearts stopped from heart attacks or from arrhythmias caused by underlying heart abnormalities. Some examples, Dr. Mack said, are hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, in which the heart walls are thickened, or long QT syndrome, a heart-signaling disorder.

But, though they can’t rule them out, heart experts doubt that Mr. Hamlin has these conditions. Dr. Rajat Deo, an arrhythmia specialist at the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania, said the N.F.L. extensively tested its athletes and would be expected to find such problems.

Cardiac arrests differ from heart attacks, which are caused when an artery supplying blood to the heart is blocked, depriving the organ of blood. That can trigger an arrhythmia or even sudden death.

“Could it have been due to a blockage?” asked Dr. Brahmajee Nallamothu, a professor of internal medicine and cardiology at the University of Michigan. “I guess, but probably unlikely in a young guy.”

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  You never want to se this.

Ekern551190January 02, 2023 04:06PM

  Re: You never want to se this.

ramBRO186January 02, 2023 04:09PM

  Re: You never want to se this.

MamaRAMa244January 02, 2023 04:12PM

  I am sick

Stafford9279January 02, 2023 04:14PM

  Temporarily suspended

Ekern55227January 02, 2023 04:18PM

  Re: I am sick

ramBRO252January 02, 2023 04:21PM

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Stafford9100January 02, 2023 04:45PM

  Re: I am sick

21Dog98January 02, 2023 04:47PM

  Re: I am sick

The Professor115January 02, 2023 06:07PM

  my immediate thought too... (nm)

LMU9399January 03, 2023 10:48AM

  UGH! Just two days ago, I told my Wife about a Detroit Lion who collapsed and died around 1972.

Ramgator139January 02, 2023 04:22PM

  Re: UGH! Just two days ago, I told my Wife about a Detroit Lion who collapsed and died around 1972.

MamaRAMa179January 02, 2023 04:25PM

  Yes. It was 1970,71 or 72. I first heard of it in a Encyclopedia yearbook years ago. nm

Ramgator113January 02, 2023 04:44PM

  let's wait and see before we speculate the worst

Rampage2K-244January 02, 2023 04:27PM

  Re: You never want to se this.

SeattleRam165January 02, 2023 04:27PM

  Re: You never want to se this.

BerendsenRam73January 02, 2023 04:57PM

  With VERY quick CPR, I pray his heart simply got knocked out of normal rhythm.

Ramgator248January 02, 2023 04:47PM

  Re: Blunt trauma to the chest Commotio Cordis nm

Rams_7899January 02, 2023 04:55PM

  I have nothing to add....

JamesJM216January 02, 2023 04:48PM

  Doesn't look like anyone has left the stadium

MamaRAMa174January 02, 2023 04:50PM

  Yeah, no doubt, Mama....

JamesJM82January 02, 2023 04:57PM

  Yes. nm

Ramgator93January 02, 2023 04:57PM

  Have not seen anything like this since the Umpire collapsed in Cincy on opening day.

Ramgator213January 02, 2023 04:51PM

  Thoughts and Prayers to Him and His Family

BerendsenRam96January 02, 2023 05:03PM

  They just did the right thing. Suspended. nm

Ramgator77January 02, 2023 05:01PM

  Re: They just did the right thing. Suspended. nm

Ekern5571January 02, 2023 05:02PM

  NFL looks like they called the game

Ekern55171January 02, 2023 05:02PM

  an update is supposedly coming soon....

JamesJM201January 02, 2023 05:43PM

  Let me rephrase that....

JamesJM117January 02, 2023 05:53PM

  Re: update on his condition

AlbaNY_Ram251January 02, 2023 05:58PM

  That has to be good, right?

JamesJM241January 02, 2023 06:00PM

  VERY positive. He has a fighting chance. I was VERY concerned...

Ramgator236January 02, 2023 06:04PM

  Re: That has to be good, right? still in critical condition

Rampage2K-260January 02, 2023 06:23PM

  Re: That has to be good, right? still in critical condition

Ekern55145January 02, 2023 06:58PM

  Re: That has to be good, right? still in critical condition

MamaRAMa118January 02, 2023 07:51PM

  That was done before the Ambulance rolled off the field.

Ramgator135January 03, 2023 02:00AM

  The fact that very critical help was RIGHT there was a HUUUUUGE plus.

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MamaRAMa309January 03, 2023 05:07AM

  Our local Sports Radio just reported positive news.

Ramgator113January 03, 2023 08:56AM

  Re: Our local Sports Radio just reported positive news.

MamaRAMa106January 03, 2023 09:15AM

  from my fiancee, a critical care emt, former flight emt, and a RN

Deadpool162January 03, 2023 09:24AM

  Re: from my fiancee, a critical care emt, former flight emt, and a RN

MamaRAMa176January 03, 2023 09:41AM

  you are welcome and

Deadpool125January 03, 2023 09:45AM

  Congrats my man...

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MamaRAMa170January 03, 2023 10:18AM

  @ Mama...great memory Mama

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  Yup.. Greg and Peter..

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  Amen...

DaJudge121January 03, 2023 11:55AM

  Congratluations DeadPool

OzRam81January 03, 2023 11:30AM

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21Dog60January 03, 2023 02:29PM

  When I was 8 years old, I witnessed a very similar thing.

Ramgator99January 03, 2023 09:53AM

  Hey Pool, as always great and accurate assessment

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  Re: from my fiancée...congratulations man

Rams Junkie141January 04, 2023 07:49PM

  Horrible news

dodgerram125January 03, 2023 11:46AM

  Just heard MORE positive news on Sports Radio.

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  Re: Just heard MORE positive news on Sports Radio.

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