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Re: that my friend is not what happened

February 02, 2021 03:07AM
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cool_hand_luke
Imagine...we might actually try to convert a third and 13 now. The fact fact we ran draws or wr screens on almost all third and longs this year spoke volumes to me.

They converted third and longs frequently.

There's actually a site that keeps stats on third and long. Goff threw them 48 times and converted a third of them, which ranks him 8th in the league. He was better at that than Brees, Watson, Rodgers, Wilson, Ryan, and Brady.

Stafford btw ranks 1st. He converted 38.7% of 62 attempts. He was better at that than everybody.

Those numbers are here: [stats.washingtonpost.com]

It's amazing to talk about a player who has fallen out of favor. People's memories go completely haywire. They remember this long litany of terrible things, even when those things are proven to be not as common as they assume. You remember nothing but WR screens on 3rd and long. But the fact is, the Rams converted 3rd and long at a higher rate than 24 other teams.

And it's also nice that Stafford was ranked first on that stat. cool smiley

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Thanks for inspiring my first post-Goff response. Finally, a perspective I can embrace.

Goff wasn't bad, he just wasn't great. The Ram team was pretty good. Staley squeezed out incredible production and consistency from a unit that had three great players, four very good players, and a bunch of jags. McVay protected a decidedly flawed OLine from being over-exposed more often than not. Jared's cool is a double-edged sword that doesn't really match McVay's fire.

I wanted Wentz but supported Goff. There were times he was very impressive. I'm on record that McVay wanted to expand the offense and give Jared more responsibility. Jared responded well many times but couldn't process everything quickly enough for McVay. I'd actually say the same thing about Everett. I think McVay demands Kupp level processing and may have that with Stafford.

Thanks again, ZN, for making this about having a good QB but wanting a better one. I believe that is spot on. Gurley, Cooks, and Peters were good players but for various reasons, not any longer the standard McVay preaches.

One last thing, if the OLine isn't properly addressed, none of the rest of this will matter much. It's not fair to tell a QB you want him to throw more deep passes AND reduce turnovers when he has no assurance the protection will be there for him. Just ask this year's versions of Brees, Wilson, and Brady. A mixtape of mind boggling interceptions by those three wouldn't be hard to produce.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/02/2021 03:20AM by Leoram.
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  Detroit's view of Stafford

Coy Bacon1271February 01, 2021 05:44PM

  Re: Detroit's view of Stafford

cool_hand_luke686February 01, 2021 06:12PM

  good point on the third and longs

21Dog263February 01, 2021 08:00PM

  Re: yep...huge point...

dzrams227February 01, 2021 10:50PM

  If we could have converted them

RamUK329February 01, 2021 11:14PM

  Re: good point on the third and longs

zn213February 02, 2021 01:48AM

  Re: good point on the third and longs....not really -Goff was 3rd in NFL on 3rd down conversion

Rampage2K-133February 02, 2021 05:22PM

  that my friend is not what happened

zn262February 02, 2021 01:40AM

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Leoram285February 02, 2021 03:07AM

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zn188February 02, 2021 03:43AM

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Leoram301February 02, 2021 04:31AM

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zn264February 02, 2021 04:52AM

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RamsFanSince69199February 02, 2021 06:23AM

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zn145February 02, 2021 06:58AM

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Leoram134February 02, 2021 04:45PM

  Where does the hurt too much comment come from?

stlramz761February 01, 2021 07:35PM

  It's called rationalization

L.A.Rams605February 02, 2021 05:22AM

  Re: Where does the hurt too much comment come from?

Coy Bacon134February 02, 2021 06:01PM

  Re: I don't get the injury rap

AlbaNY_Ram641February 02, 2021 12:42AM

  Re: I don't get the injury rap

zn186February 02, 2021 09:33AM

  okay now I get it

zn180February 02, 2021 02:30PM