December 28, 2020 12:53PM
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I think most understand that there are a lot of issues with the offense, that it's not just Goff.

But my guess is he's responding to what appears to be excusing Goff of any responsibility. I haven't seen the majority of the people defending Goff expressly note that he's part of the problem. I honestly think he's reading just fine.

Even here, you list his issues as similar to most all QBs in the league. But some of his recent bad play and bad decisions are nothing like "most all" QBs. Take the horrible decision yesterday to heave the ball to Seattle instead of simply running out of bounds. That type of stuff, which seems pretty common, has nothing to do with McVay or the OL.

And most do not say it's a lot of issues and not just the qb in a pressure situation.

And any claim that someone is "excusing" is entirely in the mind of the beholder. That's cant, and nothing more.

Almost typically to make that kind of slip in analysis someone will turn from the record setting (for the Rams) 24 pressures they faced and try and make it about one play.

I never buy that kind of thing; to me, it's weak analysis.

Off the top of your head what was Goff's third down conversion percentage in that game. If you don't know that but can dwell in loving detail on your favorite qb mistake, then, you're falling for the typical "scapegoat the qb" model of venting. It's certainly not trying to get a whole picture.

To me, real analysis acknowledges that you cannot win a game if your qb is pressured on 55.8% of the passing plays.


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I'm skeptical of the source that says there were 24 pressures. That's not what I saw. I trust PFF more than whatever your source is and they say there were 13 pressures. That lines up more with what I saw.

Granted it's still a lot of pressure.

Off the top of my head, I'd say his 3rd down percentage was very good yesterday - at one point he was 6 for 12 or so. See I know this because I account for the whole picture as the game is being played.

OTOH, you look like you're giving Goff a pass because no one can win if he's under pressure that much but that doesn't account for the mistakes and bad decisions he made that have nothing to do with pressure.

So to say that it appears that you're excusing him is not entirely in my mind since you expressly state he's excused ("he cannot win"winking smiley given the pressure.
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  Monday musings...

LMU93632December 28, 2020 05:27AM

  Re: Monday musings...

chico n da rams217December 28, 2020 06:11AM

  Agree.....the O line

NewMexicoRam176December 28, 2020 06:14AM

  Re: Monday musings...

Classicalwit177December 28, 2020 06:20AM

  Re: Monday musings...

Rampage2K-150December 28, 2020 06:52AM

  Re: Monday musings...

nicecatchellard144December 28, 2020 06:56AM

  the 3 big ones

ferragamo79158December 28, 2020 07:03AM

  Re: the 3 big ones

LMU93144December 28, 2020 07:05AM

  Re: Monday musings...

leafnose145December 28, 2020 08:08AM

  Re: Monday musings...

21Dog115December 28, 2020 01:41PM

  A few musings of my own...

Rams43315December 28, 2020 07:35AM

  one of the biggest mysteries on offense to me...

LMU93159December 28, 2020 07:50AM

  Re: one of the biggest mysteries on offense to me...

leafnose139December 28, 2020 09:23AM

  Slight disagreement

sacram144December 28, 2020 10:39AM

  Re: Monday musings...

zn153December 28, 2020 10:51AM

  Once again, nothing is Goff's fault

promomasterj237December 28, 2020 11:15AM

  Sounds more like your reacting than reading

waterfield242December 28, 2020 11:22AM

  +1 nm

Hazlet Hacksaw116December 28, 2020 11:39AM

  yeah exactly

zn155December 28, 2020 11:50AM

  Re: yeah exactly

dzrams121December 28, 2020 12:08PM

  Re: Sounds more like your reacting than reading

dzrams124December 28, 2020 12:03PM

  Re: Sounds more like your reacting than reading

zn115December 28, 2020 12:10PM

  Re: Sounds more like your reacting than reading

dzrams122December 28, 2020 12:53PM

  late in the game there was a graphic............

21Dog236December 28, 2020 01:58PM

  Re: late in the game there was a graphic............

waterfield226December 28, 2020 02:02PM

  Re: late in the game there was a graphic............

dzrams109December 28, 2020 02:28PM

  Re: late in the game there was a graphic............

waterfield105December 28, 2020 03:07PM

  Re: Sounds more like your reacting than reading

zn130December 28, 2020 03:25PM

  Re: Sounds more like your reacting than reading

waterfield111December 28, 2020 01:11PM

  the OL

LMU93161December 28, 2020 12:06PM

  They sure as heck cant run left anymore

Hazlet Hacksaw141December 28, 2020 12:09PM

  Yeah, confusing....

JamesJM119December 28, 2020 12:11PM

  No Whitworth doesn't help either nm

Hazlet Hacksaw225December 28, 2020 12:14PM

  Re: They sure as heck cant run left anymore

21Dog103December 28, 2020 01:54PM

  Re: the OL

zn112December 28, 2020 03:36PM

  Re: Monday musings...

chico n da rams113December 28, 2020 02:44PM