Yeah, we sometimes forget just how bad- truly bad- those 2007-'11 teams were overall.

At one point late in 2014 Fisher was 20-24-1 as Rams' HC (.456) before losing the final 3 that season. And 24-30-1 midway through 2015 before things just started to go south. Like you said obviously a step up in steadying the franchise. Just couldn't take them further than that.