Re: Overall grade for OL vs. Overall Pass Blocking Efficiency grade...

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Some of the pressures are credited to the OL, some to the QB. Besides every publication having a subjective determination of what constitutes pressure, that can explain the difference between 8 pressures versus 3.

You seem to be narrowly focused on the Mundt play. I'm sure PFF, FO, and everyone else put that on Mundt like they should. But it's one play man...

Bottomline: I've seen no one credibly dispute, including you, that the Rams pass blocking efficiency has been very good overall. Speed asked your opinion earlier on if you thought they were doing badly and you declined to answer so I assume you agree that they are doing very well.

Man, I dunno, I read you and it's like your thick with defending some idea you think is being attacked, and the result is, this is not a discussion. It's like I am trying to get the school board to adapt a book for English classes and you're on the board loudly declaring that communism is a failed ideology, to which I keep going "hunh???!!"

1. If the Rams OL is THAT efficient why do they run max protect at a higher rate than anyone else? And why do they continue to be weak on 3rd and long? I don't know what agenda you're defending but I will tell you what mine is. Be objective about everything all the time.

2. PFR does not "credit" pressures to anyone, they just list them. So setting aside PFF's clearly erroneous numbers and deeply subjective evals (different people could look at a play and decide differently who was "responsible" for a pressure, the qb or the OL--that is completely subjective) and going instead with PFR's clearly better numbers, the Rams had 8 pressures against them on Sunday.

3. They had 8 pressures and won, which is good.

4. On the play in question leading to more "we don't say everything is on the qb while putting everything on the qb" stuff, Mundt whiffed. Badly. Period. Find a way just to say so and you won't look like you're defending this impossible position for no good reason. It's just one play. You can go back to your it's all on Goff stuff with other plays...this one play, Mundt whiffed. Badly. Right out in the open. Right on film. Right there for us to see. Trying to argue for this one play to end up in your it's all on the qb tally is just bad business. It don''t sell.

5. And no, nobody you have named factors something like the Mundt whiff into pass blocking efficiency, or if they do, they did badly, because that is a wide open for all to see complete whiff that resulted in a strip and fumble. Regardless of some abstract non-applicable banal ideas about the qb always being responsible under those circumstances--no, not in this case.

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