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Re: Fuller vs. Rapp

December 14, 2020 03:29PM
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I've heard that if you find two starters in a draft, it was a good one. The Rams are already there with Akers and Fuller.

Whatever becomes of Lewis, Burgess, Jefferson, and Hopkins will be a bonus.

That's not much of a rule of thumb, dz. I'm pretty sure the Jets are gonna draft more than 2 starters next year. By that measure, terrible teams draft better than great teams pretty much every year. Akers was pretty clearly drafted to be an immediate or near-immediate starter, or at least to share time equally with Henderson. That he's doing that isn't a huge plus, not nearly as big a feather in their cap as Fuller displacing a player in Rapp they presumably were fairly high on. Especially since the Rams' cap sitch now dictates that they replenish their talent thru the draft, rather than free agency.

It's something I hear draft experts repeat every year.

But clearly it's easier for terrible teams to meet that criteria.

Which makes it all the more remarkable that the Rams, who are a good team, found 2 starters.

On another note, I don't know if it's just me, but I'm usually not that happy when a late round Fuller type displaces a previous earlier round pick like Rapp because that means that Rapp may end a largely wasted pick.

The 2020 draft grade goes up but the 2019 draft grade goes down. How much further ahead did we really get?

Especially since Rapp was gonna be cheap and not a free agent for a while. That's not really replenishing talent, it's more churning talent.

I'll give 'em love for Fuller because I think they really were high on Rapp. But Fuller is (even) better: an upgrade, not merely a churn. Upgrading already-solid talent thru good drafting? Kudos!

It's just not that remarkable that the Rams found 2 starters when one of them was drafted precisely to (largely) replace a departing starter in Todd Gurley. Especially since Henderson has been a bit dinged up. Akers would have had to be a significant disappointment, just as Jefferson would have been a significant disappointment, not to see the field.

Fuller is a different story.

I'm not seeing much difference between Akers, Jefferson and Fuller to be honest.

All three had recently drafted players that could have started in front of them. The Rams were high on Hemderson and Rapp. Akers had to surpass Hemderson just like Fuller had to surpass Rapp. Jefferson has yet to overtake Reynolds.
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  PFF Rams Draft Grade= C

RamBill2152April 25, 2020 05:58PM

  Re: Wow I'm just deleting this post

Rams_78601April 25, 2020 06:02PM

  Re: PFF Rams Draft Grade= C

k3521April 25, 2020 06:39PM

  I'm not a PFF guy, but Lewis with a 20% pressure rate is nuts

Deadpool666April 25, 2020 06:51PM

  They mention Ramsey

NewMexicoRam798April 25, 2020 07:06PM

  Re: PFF Rams Draft Grade= C

dodgerram522April 25, 2020 10:14PM

  I don't agree

zn752April 25, 2020 10:39PM

  Re: I agree with ZN and mo'

Steve294April 26, 2020 02:07AM

  I have 2 concerns with this draft...

max449April 26, 2020 02:31AM

  Re: I have 2 concerns with this draft...

Steve290April 26, 2020 02:57AM

  Re: I have 2 concerns with this draft...

max293April 26, 2020 04:14AM

  Re: answering Hav Q

Steve236April 26, 2020 04:38AM

  Re: answering Hav Q

zn246April 26, 2020 04:52AM

  Re: I have 2 concerns with this draft...

Rams43230April 26, 2020 07:25AM

  Re: I have 2 concerns with this draft...

Rampage2K-310April 26, 2020 07:35AM

  Re: I have 2 concerns with this draft...

zn167December 15, 2020 05:59AM

  I am LOQUACIOUS--dig it!

Steve258December 15, 2020 09:28AM

  Re: I am LOQUACIOUS--dig it!

Rampage2K-367December 15, 2020 11:59AM

  Re: I don't agrees......BINGO

Rampage2K-208April 26, 2020 07:16AM

  Re: I don't agree

Rams43280April 26, 2020 07:21AM

  Re: I don't agree

CraigMatson205April 26, 2020 08:21AM

  Agreed

NewMexicoRam169April 26, 2020 09:08AM

  Is that still true?

RamUK281April 26, 2020 09:36AM

  Re: Is that still true?

zn176April 26, 2020 01:05PM

  Re: The key to grading this draft

merlin351April 25, 2020 10:48PM

  Circle the first game against Niners

max250April 26, 2020 02:40AM

  What?

Suh-weet!228April 26, 2020 04:41AM

  Re: What?

zn333April 26, 2020 04:59AM

  Re: What?

SoCalRAMatic254April 26, 2020 05:33AM

  It's really too bad that ....

Suh-weet!434April 26, 2020 05:50AM

  I remember...

Suh-weet!205April 26, 2020 05:36AM

  Re: What?

Rampage2K-171April 26, 2020 09:18AM

  Re: Circle the first game against Niners

zn245April 26, 2020 06:01AM

  Re: And you think a rookie IOL was capable of changing that?

dzrams179April 26, 2020 09:14AM

  Re: The key to grading this draft

21Dog297April 26, 2020 04:05AM

  Re: The key to grading this draft

zn251April 26, 2020 04:07AM

  Re: The key to grading this draft

21Dog328April 26, 2020 04:09AM

  Re: The key to grading this draft

zn232April 26, 2020 04:19AM

  Re: The key to grading this draft

max257April 26, 2020 04:28AM

  Re: The key to grading this draft

zn377April 26, 2020 04:48AM

  Re: The key to grading this draft

droopy210April 26, 2020 05:56AM

  Re: so shortsighted....

spagsbacker331April 26, 2020 07:21AM

  Agreed.

max281April 26, 2020 07:34AM

  Re: they are banking on some of those players

Speed_Kills334April 26, 2020 08:09AM

  Re: they are banking on some of those players

Rampage2K-507April 26, 2020 08:28AM

  Re: 3 yrs, not 1 pick in first 2 rds....

spagsbacker220April 26, 2020 08:43AM

  Re: 3 yrs, not 1 pick in first 2 rds....

Rampage2K-182April 26, 2020 08:58AM

  Re: 3 yrs, not 1 pick in first 2 rds....

zn203April 26, 2020 09:31AM

  I agree with this statement

max352April 26, 2020 08:36AM

  Re: Agreed.

Ekern55164April 26, 2020 09:24AM

  the Ravens game

21Dog157April 26, 2020 09:26AM

  Exactly, and even with a superior OL....

max168April 26, 2020 01:32PM

  Re: so shortsighted....

Rams43231April 26, 2020 07:43AM

  Re: so shortsighted....

spagsbacker751April 26, 2020 08:06AM

  Re: so shortsighted....

Rams43201April 26, 2020 08:14AM

  Re: so shortsighted....

DESERT RAM265April 26, 2020 08:18AM

  Isn't the best way to grade these draftees

waterfield216April 26, 2020 09:25AM

  Anybody still think this Ram draft deserved a C grade?

Rams43296December 14, 2020 09:32AM

  Re: Anybody still think this Ram draft deserved a C grade?

spagsbacker223December 14, 2020 09:35AM

  Re: Any examples of teams that got an A or a B?...Nm

dzrams353December 14, 2020 09:43AM

  Re: here are some that I liked:

spagsbacker209December 14, 2020 09:50AM

  Re: Based on performance of the players, you still think they're A's?

dzrams170December 14, 2020 12:33PM

  Buffalo Bills?

PHDram167December 14, 2020 02:38PM

  Re: Buffalo Bills?

spagsbacker158December 14, 2020 03:10PM

  Re: Buffalo Bills?

dzrams142December 14, 2020 03:45PM

  A draft

PHDram142December 14, 2020 04:14PM

  Re: Anybody still think this Ram draft deserved a C grade?

Rams43351December 14, 2020 09:47AM

  Re: Anybody still think this Ram draft deserved a C grade?

spagsbacker272December 14, 2020 09:55AM

  Re: Anybody still think this Ram draft deserved a C grade?

Rams43153December 14, 2020 12:34PM

  Obviously, the entire team has overperformed...

max155December 14, 2020 02:12PM

  Re: Obviously, the entire team has overperformed...

Rams43163December 14, 2020 02:18PM

  Re: Anybody still think this Ram draft deserved a C grade?

dzrams243December 14, 2020 01:01PM

  Re: Anybody still think this Ram draft deserved a C grade?

spagsbacker162December 14, 2020 03:12PM

  Re: Gotcha...potential over performance for your grades...nm

dzrams186December 14, 2020 03:41PM

  Dunno, 43. Only 3 guys even deserve much of a grade, I think:

Suh-weet!292December 14, 2020 11:23AM

  Re: Dunno, 43. Only 3 guys even deserve much of a grade, I think:

Rams43228December 14, 2020 12:41PM

  Maybe

Suh-weet!402December 14, 2020 02:10PM

  Re: Maybe

Rams43201December 14, 2020 02:21PM

  My excitement for Burgess comes from Staley

stlramz160December 14, 2020 07:11PM

  Re: The general rule of thumb...

dzrams294December 14, 2020 12:49PM

  Re: The general rule of thumb...

Suh-weet!166December 14, 2020 01:56PM

  Re: The general rule of thumb...

dzrams147December 14, 2020 02:08PM

  Fuller vs. Rapp

Suh-weet!219December 14, 2020 02:21PM

  Re: Fuller vs. Rapp

dzrams468December 14, 2020 03:29PM

  Re: The general rule of thumb...

Rams43166December 14, 2020 02:30PM

  Yup. I was looking for Fuller in these threads

stlramz144December 14, 2020 07:07PM

  Re: PFF Rams Draft Grade= C

Killrazor356December 15, 2020 12:00AM

  BE VERY CAREFUL

ferragamo79190December 17, 2020 04:04PM