January 21, 2020 11:43PM
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RantoulRam
I remember that at one time he was one of the top-rated tackles in the NFL, which really surprised me.

Then last year he really fell off. Possibly related to playing through injury?

I remember we gave him a healthy, but not bank-breaking, contract which surprised me a bit at the time. Then the following year he looked great and looked like we had locked him up cheap. Then with his play last year he looked overpaid.

Hopefully Kromer and co know exactly what caused his struggles and will make the right choice. I would hate to trade or cut him and have him become a OL standout for someone else for 10 years.

Basically Hav got a standard issue 2nd contract for a right OT at about the amount you would expect for the year he signed. Top ROTs like Lane Johnson get more than the position avg. amount.

It was deceptive when Hav was rated highly because what was rated high was his run blocking. He was always rated lower for his pass blocking.

Some guys who saw him in camp say he was not in the same shape and didn't look good at that point already.
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  Could we trade Havenstein?

3030848January 20, 2020 03:44PM

  Re: Could we trade Havenstein?

BeachBoy299January 20, 2020 04:54PM

  Re: Could we trade Havenstein?

3030301January 21, 2020 05:21AM

  at this point, move him to guard and try to salvage him....

Rampage2K-267January 20, 2020 05:02PM

  Cutting Havenstein after the 2020 season is an option

Rams Junkie266January 20, 2020 06:11PM

  FWIW 2015-2019 PFF Grades on Havenstein

Rams Junkie426January 22, 2020 01:53PM

  Re: FWIW 2015-2019 PFF Grades on Havenstein

Classicalwit197January 23, 2020 03:57AM

  I'm biased

Ramboni218January 21, 2020 05:15AM

  Re: WHY?

oldschoolramfan273January 21, 2020 05:26AM

  Do we know who he is?

RantoulRam235January 21, 2020 08:41AM

  Looking back at his draft write-up

3030189January 21, 2020 09:03AM

  Re: At worst......Move the big guy to RG.

oldschoolramfan228January 21, 2020 09:34AM

  AMEN

Los Angeles Lenny212January 21, 2020 11:37PM

  didn't they try that with Brown

ferragamo79207January 22, 2020 04:31AM

  I think he can especially with the new rules

Los Angeles Lenny323January 23, 2020 12:13AM

  Re: I think he can especially with the new rules

Classicalwit168January 23, 2020 03:54AM

  Re: At worst......Move the big guy to RG.

Rams43182January 22, 2020 07:19AM

  Re: At worst......Move the big guy to RG.

AlbaNY_Ram177January 23, 2020 05:31AM

  Re: At worst......Move the big guy to RG.

Rams43197January 23, 2020 08:13AM

  Re: At worst......Move the big guy to RG.

dzrams175January 23, 2020 08:21AM

  Re: At worst......Move the big guy to RG.

Rams43163January 23, 2020 08:26AM

  Re: At worst......Move the big guy to RG.

dzrams303January 23, 2020 08:55AM

  Re: At worst......Move the big guy to RG.

AlbaNY_Ram167January 23, 2020 09:12AM

  Article from 2017 on the subject

3030178January 23, 2020 10:38AM

  Re: Do we know who he is?

zn225January 21, 2020 11:43PM

  great question

PHDram164January 23, 2020 08:17AM

  Re: Could we trade Havenstein?

SoCalRAMatic272January 22, 2020 04:29AM

  decision on Havenstein will be interesting

LMU93363January 22, 2020 07:26AM

  Re: decision on Havenstein will be interesting

Rams43292January 22, 2020 07:36AM

  worried about these chronic foot problems

ferragamo79276January 23, 2020 08:00AM