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I agree that when conditions are right I like the throws he can make. But the weakness of collapsing when under pressure is very disconcerting. That's a huge weakness because they will never be able to prevent all pressure.

No one has ever established that Goff is bad under normal or average pressure. I have no idea why you would leap to that conclusion---there's just no basis for it.

PLUS in the middle of all this, people talk about pressure, and then--astoundingly, since these are people generally informed about football--completely neglect to account for the OL conditions.

If all you look at is the qb, the qb is all you will ever see.

But that's not the same as making a good analysis.

What is normal or average pressure? Compared to what? Heavy pressure? I think you're just making stuff up now. I have no idea why you think it's necessary to distinguish between types of pressure - there's just no basis for that.

My opinion is that pressure is pressure. You'd have to prove to me that that is not the case. Do you have any examples to differentiate between normal pressure versus heavy pressure? Can you name any QBs who were different under "normal" pressure versus some different kind of pressure?

When talking about pressure it's necessarily accounting for the OL since the vast majority of time a QB is under pressure, it's an OL failure. Every so often it's the QBs fault. So the context of the entire subject of a QB facing pressure is OL failure.

Find the statistical average. That's all that means.

And while your opinion may be that pressure is pressure, you still need the evidence that a minimal amount has the same effect as the highest amount. Don't do that and it's just a big opinion, and that's all. You haven't proven that pressure is pressure, you just assume it. When the testimony of my own eyes tells me your assumption does not hold up.

No accounting for the OL does not mean making bland unstated assumptions. It means factoring it in. That means paying attention to things like the fact that a a line has been mauled by multiple injuries, or a bad OL injuries or not, and actually making that part of the analysis. You in contrast begin with qb stats and end with qb stats. I am a huge context guy and always have been. To me the stats on one guy thing is too abstract and has the likelihood of creating these math-based but unreal phantoms.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/16/2019 04:30PM by zn.