Re: Rams and Martz deserve criticism

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My takeaway from that whole situation was that there was a fix for Warner's fumbling and the Rams gave up on him. Whether it was Martz or management or whatever. Not only did they give up on him, they didn't let him fight for his job which is the exact opposite of what the Cardinals did. Cardinals gave him a chance, he got injured, got benched and went through some up's and down's for them but ultimately, he was always given the chance to earn his job back. I think that is the biggest reason he appreciates their organization.

He had some injuries and struggles with the Rams and all told, after 7 games(over the course of 2 seasons), they gave up on him and were happy to move on to Bulger.

They gave him his big break but they also gave up on him and did so in questionable fashion.

I really don't see why anyone sides with the Rams on this discussion. The management and ownership at that time was not worthy of defense. Look what they did to Bruce. Warner was ultimately treated poorly and given up on. I don't see why he should have any loyalty to the people that did that to him. I, for one, am HAPPY that that group is dead and buried, so to speak, in St. Louis.

The Giants "gave up on him" too...because he couldn't hold the football and looked like a shell of his former self. So it wasn't just the Rams. I don't know who suggested the glove (maybe Brenda lol) but that is what saved\resurrected his career, not that the Cardinals "believed" in him. Wasn't he a backup when they signed him? I guess they didn't fully believe right away. lol

I agree with all you said on the front office being bad and could see why he is upset with those people, but it's also those same people who gave him his break. You can hate the FO people and still appreciate the "franchise".

I still like KW and appreciate what he has done for us but IMO to say what he said is silly and childish. If that's how he really feels, maybe he should've kept it to himself.

What are you even talking about? How is the Giants situation even remotely similar to the Rams?

And I didn't say the Cardinals "believed" in him. I said that they gave him the opportunity to win his job back. Which the Rams did not.

What??? Incorrect. If I remember correctly, there was an instance where Martz wanted Kurt to "go in" for MB and he declined stating "MB needs to work through it". KW turned the chance down. He could have came in and won his job back but said no. That's on him. Even if he would have gone in, it wouldn't have mattered as KW could not hold a football at that time as proved in NY.

As for the Giants, they gave KW a chance just like AZ. How did that work out? Does he feel like a Giant more than a Ram because they signed him? As I said, I loved KW but "he" got lucky when he found the glove. If he hadn't found the glove, his career would have been over regardless who signed him.

I agree the FO sucked back then and this might have been worked out better, but how long do you wait for someone to return from injury? It took a few years for KW to find a glove. So IMO, BOTH sides could have done things differently.

That's what I am talking about. All MY OPINION. You don't have to agree. I am fine with that.

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“Well, the color is good, I like the metallic blue,” Youngblood recently said while laughing, via NFL Journal. “The horn is terrible. It looks like a ‘C.’ When I first saw it on the logo I honestly thought it was a Charger logo.

“Now when I see it on the helmet, it just isn’t a ram horn. There is no distinct curl like a mature ram horn. I don’t know how the Rams could get that wrong. That is your symbol and it has been for what? Seventy years or more? Longer than I have been alive? It’s just not us, it’s not the Rams.”---Mr. Ram Jack Youngblood





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/15/2019 03:24AM by Ramsdude.