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Re: Rams and Martz deserve criticism

November 14, 2019 04:32PM
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Ramsdude
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moklerman
My takeaway from that whole situation was that there was a fix for Warner's fumbling and the Rams gave up on him. Whether it was Martz or management or whatever. Not only did they give up on him, they didn't let him fight for his job which is the exact opposite of what the Cardinals did. Cardinals gave him a chance, he got injured, got benched and went through some up's and down's for them but ultimately, he was always given the chance to earn his job back. I think that is the biggest reason he appreciates their organization.

He had some injuries and struggles with the Rams and all told, after 7 games(over the course of 2 seasons), they gave up on him and were happy to move on to Bulger.

They gave him his big break but they also gave up on him and did so in questionable fashion.

I really don't see why anyone sides with the Rams on this discussion. The management and ownership at that time was not worthy of defense. Look what they did to Bruce. Warner was ultimately treated poorly and given up on. I don't see why he should have any loyalty to the people that did that to him. I, for one, am HAPPY that that group is dead and buried, so to speak, in St. Louis.

The Giants "gave up on him" too...because he couldn't hold the football and looked like a shell of his former self. So it wasn't just the Rams. I don't know who suggested the glove (maybe Brenda lol) but that is what saved\resurrected his career, not that the Cardinals "believed" in him. Wasn't he a backup when they signed him? I guess they didn't fully believe right away. lol

I agree with all you said on the front office being bad and could see why he is upset with those people, but it's also those same people who gave him his break. You can hate the FO people and still appreciate the "franchise".

I still like KW and appreciate what he has done for us but IMO to say what he said is silly and childish. If that's how he really feels, maybe he should've kept it to himself.
What are you even talking about? How is the Giants situation even remotely similar to the Rams?

And I didn't say the Cardinals "believed" in him. I said that they gave him the opportunity to win his job back. Which the Rams did not.
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  I know I am...

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  Not that it really matters but not hard to see why also..

Ramgator348November 14, 2019 06:02AM

  Re: Not that it really matters but not hard to see why also..

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  LOL MY Wife???

Ramgator398November 14, 2019 07:40AM

  Re: not surprising

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  Re: not surprising

LMU93189November 14, 2019 12:11PM

  Re: it’s incredible

Speed_Kills199November 14, 2019 04:39PM

  Re: it’s incredible

moklerman188November 14, 2019 04:47PM

  He only played 50 games as a Ram!!! What a 50 games those were!

Ramadune241November 14, 2019 09:11AM

  Rams and Martz deserve criticism

moklerman216November 14, 2019 10:35AM

  Re: Rams and Martz deserve criticism

Ramsdude335November 14, 2019 11:25AM

  Rams gave Warner a chance because what else was there??

Ramgator177November 14, 2019 11:29AM

  Re: Rams gave Warner a chance because what else was there??

Ramsdude188November 14, 2019 11:55AM

  Warner did a great job of keeping things to himself.

Ramgator186November 14, 2019 04:29PM

  Re: Rams gave Warner a chance because what else was there??

zn178November 16, 2019 12:27PM

  Re: Rams and Martz deserve criticism

moklerman292November 14, 2019 04:32PM

  Re: Rams and Martz deserve criticism

Ramsdude263November 15, 2019 03:22AM

  yes lots of good points

Rams_81194November 15, 2019 10:58AM

  Re: yes lots of good points

Ramsdude298November 15, 2019 11:16AM

  Re: yes lots of good points

moklerman356November 15, 2019 08:23PM

  Re: yes lots of good points

kw13186November 16, 2019 11:28AM