Re: wasn't talking about that
| November 16, 2018 01:52PM |
The problem is that if a team has an overnight turnaround, you will point to all "the sufficient talent" they have.
If they don't, you will say not enough talent because your premise is that "sufficient talent is required". Your definition guarantees you will be right. Obviously, what makes talent sufficient is that it is enough to do well.
The reason people keep bringing up Fisher is to underscore the point that all that talent is NO guarantee of success which means what? Talent was "not sufficient" or that "talent was sufficient" but the coach wasn't good enough.
Have you ever considered that sometimes its the coaching that DEVELOPS the talent which then makes it sufficient. I have no doubt that McVay can take any team in the NFL and within a year, people would say there was a "turnaround" as in "overnight" because some people are just that good. What makes the talent "sufficient" for them is different for what makes talent "sufficient" for someone else.
If they don't, you will say not enough talent because your premise is that "sufficient talent is required". Your definition guarantees you will be right. Obviously, what makes talent sufficient is that it is enough to do well.
The reason people keep bringing up Fisher is to underscore the point that all that talent is NO guarantee of success which means what? Talent was "not sufficient" or that "talent was sufficient" but the coach wasn't good enough.
Have you ever considered that sometimes its the coaching that DEVELOPS the talent which then makes it sufficient. I have no doubt that McVay can take any team in the NFL and within a year, people would say there was a "turnaround" as in "overnight" because some people are just that good. What makes the talent "sufficient" for them is different for what makes talent "sufficient" for someone else.
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He's been saying this for a while now.
McVay is going to be the gold standard and teams are gonna be constantly trying to find the next McVay
We are so blessed to have landed this guy....... and so deserving after going through such dark times.
If Cowherd was saying that the gold standard is a one year turnaround, then that was a complete delusion on his part.
No one turns a team around overnight unless there is already sufficient talent on hand. In this case that included a pro bowl qb, DROY and then DPOY, and an OROY and then OPOY. But that wasn't even all. McV and Snead added players but that was not an overnight complete rebuild. Which is why when they were doing the coaching search in 2017 Demoff openly said this is not a rebuild.
McVay is a great hire but I don't know what "hiring the next McVay" means. Hire a good coach? Maybe more narrowly, make your next head coach an offensive coach? If it only means that then people already knew it. The trick is just finding the guy.
But the "overnight turnaround" thing is a complete myth on Cowherd's part and makes me wonder if his views get much past the shallow end. No coach does that without inheriting a lot of top talent. Can you think of any exceptions?
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That's the thing you seemed to miss....McVay took basically the same team Fisher floundered with and went from WORST offense in NFL to BEST offense in NFL.
From doormat to dominating
That's the point.
Team owners see that and think that maybe if they could get just half of that they'd be ahead of the game.
I was not talking about that. It's this and it applies universally all over the NFL in all years. No coach, no matter how good, pulls off an overnight turnaround without inheriting a lot of talent.
THEREFORE, if Cowherd believes McVay in of himself means an overnight turnaround, he's just deluded. I promise you, no NFL execs in charge of hiring are going to think McVay means overnight turnarounds are possible without inherited talent. I promise you to a man they all know better.
The counter-argument is not to try and dredge up Fisher wars. That has nothing to do with what I am saying. It's to name an example of an overnight turnaround where the first year coach did NOT inherit a lot of talent.
You can look for examples of that if you want but I suggest not bothering---any example would be so rare as to be a negligible exception.
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