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not even a tiny bit

November 16, 2018 11:35AM
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RamUK
And how he's done it.

It's not just that he's this or that, but he's the entire package.

He's a brilliant rapport builder. He's equally good at knowing when to ask for help and what help to take. And he's a voracious learner

There's an expression in coaching 'success leaves a trail' and he gets that by stealing ideas from everywhere.

The only ego he demonstrates is very occasionally in play calling, and sometimes that can be a good thing.

That's what I'm pretty sure people like Cowherd is referring to.

He's the anti-Fisher.

Yes he had some talent, but Fisher couldn't get anything from that talent and McVay has got everything.

The only legit counter-argument to what I am saying is this:

Name any coaches, at any time, no matter how good, who pulled off an overnight turnaround WITHOUT inheriting talent.

My point has nothing to do with old Fisher wars and different ideas of why they lost before. It certainly has nothing at all to do with underestimating McV---I am on record as saying, multiple times, that I think McV is the best Rams coach I've known since following them with the possible exception of Vermeil, but then I also think he is capable of supassing Vermeil (the only difference between DV and McV is that DV had to rebuild, McV only had to renovate and add on).

So. My point has to with the entire NFL in all years. It applies universally.

As I said, the only counter to what I am saying would be to name ANY coaches who pulled off an overnight turnaround and DID NOT inherit a lot of talent.

That would have a lot more to do with what I am actually saying.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/16/2018 11:38AM by zn.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Is anybody else getting uneasy about other fans

RamUK1035November 16, 2018 10:42AM

  Re: Is anybody else getting uneasy about other fans

Rampage2K-341November 16, 2018 10:45AM

  Agreed. Did u hear McVay when he was asked

stlramz303November 16, 2018 12:47PM

  Re: Is anybody else getting uneasy about other fans

stlurams206November 16, 2018 01:55PM

  Re: Is anybody else getting uneasy about other fans

zn340November 16, 2018 10:47AM

  Cowherd said McVay is going to get a lot of coaches fired

Rampage2K-344November 16, 2018 10:53AM

  Re: Cowherd said McVay is going to get a lot of coaches fired

MamaRAMa241November 16, 2018 11:03AM

  Re: Cowherd said McVay is going to get a lot of coaches fired

Rampage2K-267November 16, 2018 11:14AM

  depends on what he means

zn201November 16, 2018 11:14AM

  Re: depends on what he means

Rampage2K-182November 16, 2018 11:24AM

  wasn't talking about that

zn162November 16, 2018 11:33AM

  Re: wasn't talking about that

Rampage2K-158November 16, 2018 11:47AM

  those have happened

zn280November 16, 2018 12:36PM

  Re: those have happened

Rampage2K-159November 16, 2018 12:47PM

  Re: those have happened

zn156November 16, 2018 01:56PM

  Re: wasn't talking about that

stlramz147November 16, 2018 01:52PM

  Utterly underestimates what McVay has done

RamUK253November 16, 2018 11:32AM

  not even a tiny bit

zn215November 16, 2018 11:35AM

  Mike Smith inherited a dumpster fire in Atlanta

RamUK193November 16, 2018 02:50PM

  don't agree with the example

zn188November 16, 2018 04:27PM

  it wasn’t a rebuild, it WAS an organizational fail (Fisher)

max165November 16, 2018 01:51PM

  confusion

zn175November 16, 2018 02:03PM

  Looks like you're cherry picking

max254November 16, 2018 04:27PM

  nope, I looked at the results...one comment held up another didn't

zn341November 16, 2018 05:01PM

  Re: nope, I looked at the results...one comment held up another didn't

max746November 16, 2018 06:10PM

  Re: nope, I looked at the results...one comment held up another didn't

zn787November 16, 2018 07:02PM

  Curious: what team has no talent?

stlramz177November 17, 2018 03:53AM

  if that were the case

zn152November 17, 2018 04:36AM

  Objection! Non responsive. Move to strike.

stlramz155November 17, 2018 03:06PM

  Not really the right question

zn153November 17, 2018 03:41PM

  its my question.

stlramz146November 17, 2018 07:39PM

  I think you switched the thing up

zn151November 17, 2018 08:15PM

  Let me know when your done editing

stlramz151November 17, 2018 08:22PM

  Re: Let me know when your done editing

zn187November 17, 2018 08:28PM

  Seriously? Your title wasn’t personal?

stlramz146November 17, 2018 08:40PM

  Re: Seriously? Your title wasn’t personal?

zn288November 17, 2018 08:45PM

  Re: Seriously? Your title wasn’t personal?

stlramz147November 17, 2018 08:48PM

  Fair enough (nm)

zn195November 17, 2018 08:50PM

  Re: Exactly!

dzrams175November 17, 2018 09:27AM

  Re: Exactly!

zn144November 17, 2018 10:21AM

  Re: Exactly!

dzrams170November 17, 2018 04:14PM

  Re: Exactly!

zn175November 17, 2018 05:08PM

  Less about personnel vs getting players to play better

Rams_81173November 19, 2018 02:48AM

  Re: Here is what "hiring the next McVay" means....

dzrams227November 16, 2018 02:57PM

  Re: Here is what "hiring the next McVay" means....

zn186November 16, 2018 04:09PM

  Re: Here is what "hiring the next McVay" means....

dzrams135November 16, 2018 04:48PM

  Re: Here is what "hiring the next McVay" means....

zn140November 16, 2018 05:19PM

  Ted Marchiroda did

SUretHing183November 16, 2018 04:17PM

  don't agree, not if you look closer

zn169November 16, 2018 04:51PM

  It is about how coaching can get players to play better

Rams_81150November 19, 2018 02:45AM

  Martz proves that it is never just the coach

zn271November 19, 2018 02:59AM

  Every team looked for the next Brady and Bellicheck.

RockRam271November 16, 2018 12:01PM

  Here is the video of Cowherd on McVay

Rampage2K-225November 16, 2018 05:19PM

  LOL...I find the thought another team is go to snatch him from us funny....

jemach200November 17, 2018 06:21AM

  I'll catch H*** for this but.......

Ramgator286November 16, 2018 12:49PM

  Then I jumped the gun....

JamesJM235November 16, 2018 12:55PM

  Re: I'll catch H*** for this but.......

bigjimram21149November 17, 2018 09:59AM

  Lol there's almost zero chance Mcvay leaves

Ram_Ruler179November 16, 2018 01:15PM

  Vision

Old Goat166November 16, 2018 05:00PM

  Great coaches spawn great results

SUretHing222November 16, 2018 05:28PM

  for me it is cause and effect Martz and McVay

Rams_81205November 18, 2018 12:28PM