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July 24, 2018 11:50AM
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I don't see any reason why AD would be in a rush to sign. I think the August 8 deadline regarding his service time and that start of training camp are the pressure points where we might see a deal.

Pressure is off Demoff a bit after signing Gurley and Cooks. He can go the Franchise root without and keep AD for 3 years and justify it now (Goff/Peters) if he has too. He has all the leverage but does he want to destroy the relationship using his leverage. Of course AD agent may need to be taught a lesson about leverage and doing what is best for your client. I think AD has already lost money not signing a deal last year but not sure the numbers would have been last year versus this year. I know he will loss money if Rams pay him based on his current contract and franchise him for the next 2 seasons. He losses money and takes all the risk which is malpractice on behalf of the agent if you ask me.

AD doesn't have to sign by the 8th. He can report on the 8th without a new contract and they can continue to work on an extension all season if it comes to that.

In terms of "shots fired," I just don't think professional negotiations work that way. As was pointed out before when Cooks was signed, a team can have multiple negotiations going on at the same time, and they all have their own timeframe and issues to resolve and if they're professional about it, they aren't "sending messages" with who they sign first or 2nd.

As VB says.

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Vincent Bonsignore@DailyNewsVinny
FYI on #Rams extension with Todd Gurley and how it (doesn't) impact Aaron Donald's situation. As Les Snead said, these deals are unto themselves and negotiated simultaneously.










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All it really shows is that the Rams are willing and able to take care of their core players....they tried to do this a year ago with Donald. The deal still isn't done.....which leads most to believe this is on Donald and his agent....

Louis Riddick said today "you see these deals and you know they're trying to get a deal done with Donald"

He believes a deal will get done soon and so do I

Well it shows the Rams are willing and able to pay Cooks and Gurley.

Donald's contract represents the more groundbreaking one because he will be the first non-qb to break the 20 M bar. Why isn't it done yet? Well based on the things we actually know, it's equally possible to say right now that Donald wants too much, the Rams are offering too little, or both, or neither thing and there is no substantial problem.

No agent in his right mind looks at the fact that a team signs someone else and panics. And in terms of "pressure" perceptions, I don't think any of that is the least bit real. I think it's just something we fans say.

And of course they're trying to get the deal done with Donald. I don't think anyone ever doubted that. But it is going to be a tougher deal to get done.

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Of course not, but like you said, it changes the narrative quite a bit..... all those people that were saying the " Rams can't sign their star players" are now seeing that they absolutely can.

The perception has changed for many....including some of the people on this board.

It changes nothing real.

What you call "the narrative" is nothing but message board talk.

No responsible agent in his right mind sits around thinking "what's the narrative on fan message boards."

Besides, everything you say assumes that the agents need pressure on them, and I only point out that that assumption is just one speculation among others when in fact we don't know if it's even the least bit true.

You have no idea what's going on in these negotiations and why they're not done yet. I know that because I too have no idea. All baseless assumptions aside.




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You are missing the point..... I'm not talking about the message board narrative, I'm talking a national narrative from regular media like NFL Live to all of social media.
The perception that the Rams are "lowballing" ( your favorite term) is changing for those that thought they were.....not just on a message board level either.

My guess is and always has been that Donald will sign an extension by August 7th in the $21-22M per year range.

If he shows up to camp without a deal or holds out past August 7th he should sue his agent for malpractice



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  Rams extend Gurley! 4Year 60 mil

Speedball891246July 24, 2018 08:50AM

  Hell yes!!! Just saw that!!!!

Rampage2K-461July 24, 2018 08:51AM

  Brillaint move...

jemach377July 24, 2018 08:57AM

  what this move does

zn373July 24, 2018 09:58AM

  Re: 100% agree nm

Speed_Kills232July 24, 2018 12:00PM

  Re: 100% agree nm.....Smart move!

oldschoolramfan333July 24, 2018 01:51PM

  agreed but it's especially interesting because he's an RB

zn375July 24, 2018 02:28PM

  +1...

jemach281July 24, 2018 02:54PM

  BEST ALL TIME Ram RBs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Steve214July 25, 2018 10:15AM

  I guess we'll see if Gurley becomes a first ballot HOFer!

jemach237July 25, 2018 01:26PM

  Re: I guess we'll see if Gurley becomes a first ballot HOFer!

Steve267July 25, 2018 08:31PM

  Re: BEST ALL TIME Ram RBs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Speedball89157July 25, 2018 07:49PM

  Re: BEST ALL TIME Ram RBs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Steve311July 25, 2018 08:30PM

  Re: BEST ALL TIME Ram RBs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Speedball89167July 25, 2018 08:38PM

  Good news, bad news, I guess...

Rams43359July 24, 2018 09:02AM

  It's an extention...

jemach326July 24, 2018 09:05AM

  Re: It's an extention...

Rams43261July 24, 2018 09:58AM

  If you look at it this way...

jemach218July 24, 2018 12:45PM

  the Good news is you can give greater weight to my posts. LOL

max246July 24, 2018 11:36AM

  Re: i think you are right about AD nm

Speed_Kills194July 24, 2018 12:02PM

  Re: i think you are right about AD nm

max213July 24, 2018 12:18PM

  Re: yup I follow you

Speed_Kills200July 24, 2018 12:51PM

  Re: yup I follow you

max209July 24, 2018 01:22PM

  Re: yup I follow you.....AD domino will fall this year....

oldschoolramfan218July 24, 2018 01:56PM

  Re: Rams extend Gurley! 4Year 60 mil

Ramsdude293July 24, 2018 09:16AM

  Re: Rams extend Gurley! 4Year 60 mil

Speedball89389July 24, 2018 09:18AM

  Weren't you a Gurley can be replaced person?

jemach260July 24, 2018 09:23AM

  Re: Weren't you a Gurley can be replaced person?

Speedball89237July 24, 2018 09:27AM

  "The Rams showed inability to sign their big players."

DaJudge343July 24, 2018 09:33AM

  Yes it was...

jemach195July 24, 2018 12:52PM

  Please...

DaJudge224July 24, 2018 01:19PM

  Which big players?

Ram_Ruler330July 24, 2018 09:49AM

  Hmmm...

jemach207July 24, 2018 12:53PM

  i think hes correct

PHDram369July 24, 2018 09:52AM

  Re: i think hes correct

Ramsdude349July 24, 2018 09:56AM

  Re: i think hes correct

PHDram341July 24, 2018 10:57AM

  none of those were the issue

zn223July 24, 2018 10:06AM

  they were questions for you and others

PHDram216July 24, 2018 10:52AM

  they were fair questions IMO and I am glad the Rams changed

zn376July 24, 2018 10:59AM

  now its all new business model?

PHDram197July 24, 2018 12:46PM

  and we disagree again

zn204July 24, 2018 01:10PM

  And....

DaJudge210July 24, 2018 01:20PM

  Re: And....

zn207July 24, 2018 01:30PM

  What are they doing different

PHDram211July 24, 2018 02:19PM

  PM (nm)

zn318July 24, 2018 02:30PM

  Why?

PHDram226July 24, 2018 04:58PM

  yeah i dont get it

PHDram442July 24, 2018 08:06PM

  Great deal both ways

RamsFanSince69300July 24, 2018 09:27AM

  The Cooks and Gurley deal sound like shots fired!!!

Rampage2K-362July 24, 2018 09:40AM

  Re: The Cooks and Gurley deal sound like shots fired!!!

Ramsdude264July 24, 2018 09:51AM

  Re: The Cooks and Gurley deal sound like shots fired!!!

Rampage2K-261July 24, 2018 09:56AM

  Re: The Cooks and Gurley deal sound like shots fired!!!

Ramsdude213July 24, 2018 09:58AM

  Re: The Cooks and Gurley deal sound like shots fired!!!

David Deacon266July 24, 2018 10:01AM

  I don't think things work like that

zn298July 24, 2018 10:15AM

  there is an indirect connection

Rampage2K-409July 24, 2018 10:40AM

  I don't agree with that

zn240July 24, 2018 10:48AM

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zn198July 24, 2018 11:16AM

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zn200July 24, 2018 01:13PM

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Rampage2K-198July 24, 2018 01:26PM

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Speedball89191July 24, 2018 02:13PM

  Re: I don't think things work like that

bigjimram21194July 24, 2018 12:10PM

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Rampage2K-190July 24, 2018 12:19PM

  I agree about not being "shots fired"...

jemach183July 24, 2018 12:57PM

  Donald be thinking "do they love me, too"

Steve218July 24, 2018 10:27AM

  Faaaaaantastic news!

DaJudge704July 24, 2018 09:34AM

  WHOA!!!

alyoshamucci261July 24, 2018 10:34AM

  Re: Rams extend Gurley! 4Year 60 mil

oldschoolramfan208July 24, 2018 10:48AM

  Re: Rams extend Gurley! 4Year 60 mil

AlbaNY_Ram214July 24, 2018 11:05AM

  Re: Rams extend Gurley! 4Year 60 mil

zn216July 24, 2018 11:20AM

  WOW what a relief 1st Cooks and now Gurley

VANRAM210July 24, 2018 12:14PM

  Good for him!

Speed_Kills237July 24, 2018 11:58AM

  As you probably already surmised...

jemach204July 24, 2018 02:57PM

  Rams extend Gurley! 4Year 60 mil: 24 yrs old next month

Anonymous User571July 24, 2018 02:25PM

  Great job Ram

Los Angeles Lenny226July 24, 2018 02:33PM

  Re: Nice, my favorite Ram!

spagsbacker228July 24, 2018 07:45PM