July 20, 2018 08:46AM
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Talib - I don't see why he wouldn't be back. He'll be paid a very modest $9M in 2019 so unless his performance drastically declines this year which is unlikely, I think it's a lock he'll be back.

Joyner - He's gone. And I said so the minute they franchise tagged him. They can't keep everyone and letting a DB walk is probably where they save money. Fortunately, Snead has been very good at drafting DBs.

Suh - IMO, this was always intended on both sides to be a one year relationship. Under normal circumstances I'd say it's near a 100% chance he won't be back. However, I see an outside chance that if things don't go well in AD negotiations or take a turn for the worse, the Rams could possibly want to keep Suh as insurance for AD leaving. Call it Plan B. I don't think they can afford both long term though.

Whitworth - I'm guessing there's an 80% chance he's back. I think both he and the Rams signed a 3 year deal on purpose due to his age. I agree that a Rams SB win increases the likelihood of retirement. OTOH, if they don't win the SB but get close I think he'll want to be back for another shot at it.

Saffold - It's hard to say. I could easily see the Rams deciding to save money here and he becomes a cap casualty. I think he'll be the most expensive to resign out of the three pending free agents of he, Hav, and Brown. OTOH, they could decide to keep him in the budget which IMO makes it more likely that Brown and Hav walk. I see us keeping two at most, and possibly only one of the three. And IMO Saffold is the linchpin of that decision.

Your take is the one I most closely resonate with, dz. Fwiw, lol.

I differ with you only slightly on Whit. I make him only 50% for ‘19. First, he seemed to tail off a bit in late ‘17 and I suspect that that might accelerate in ‘18. Still a fine player, of course, but not quite the same as earlier in the ‘17 season. Noteboom was drafted to be his ultimate replacement and if Noteboom blossoms in ‘18 then Big Whit (and his salary) become expendable in ‘19. If Noteboom disappoints, then the ‘19 draft class is reportedly loaded with LOT prospects. Either way, Big Whit is fighting Father Time and one, or more, high draft pick challengers.

I’m also a bit more pessimistic than you about extending Saffold. Check this out [www.spotrac.com] (gotta scroll down for individual players)

Those top 8-9 Gaurd salaries are intimidating. And Zack Martin’s new 6 year $84 million salary isn’t reflected as an ‘18 cap hit yet! I just don’t know if Saffold is affordable, tbh. I make him less than 50%. Sigh.

I appreciate that 43! I enjoy when we agree lol.

On Whit, I agree that he showed some decline. My thoughts on why such a high projection are largely a reflection of how I see Notebloom.

I'm skeptical Notebloom is the LT of the future; I think he will ultimately end up at RT. But even if he was the future I don't see his ceiling as being a star LT like Whit. I know that Whit is declining but declining from ultra elite is probably still better than an ascending, yet inexperienced player with a somewhat limited ceiling.

I also think there's a very good chance that they select another OT high in the 2019 draft. I suspect that guy will be the LT of the future. The problem is, rookie LT's don't always come in and produce at a high level right away.

If Whit doesn't want to retire, I have a hard time seeing the Rams choosing to cut his experience and what would likely still be a high level of play. Stated another way, why would they need to save the money in 2019? The real salary cap pain of extending all of these great players starts in 2020.

2019 IMO is still an all out run at the SB while some of the young core is still inexpensive.
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  5 Rams who could be in their last season with the team

jemach640July 20, 2018 04:57AM

  most/least likely to stay

LMU93292July 20, 2018 05:18AM

  Re: most/least likely to stay

bigjimram21212July 20, 2018 06:06AM

  There is no way Joyner gets tagged...

jemach106July 20, 2018 10:46AM

  Agreed

AlbaNY_Ram105July 20, 2018 11:01AM

  That is a good point...

jemach116July 21, 2018 03:37AM

  won't matter

zn88July 21, 2018 05:10AM

  I said Joyner is a goner so....

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zn193July 20, 2018 05:24AM

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dzrams127July 20, 2018 06:58AM

  on Talib and Whitworth

LMU93107July 20, 2018 07:32AM

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dzrams96July 20, 2018 08:28AM

  we will see

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  Rams have 3rd most cap space 2019 1st in 2020

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  I get the feeling..

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