June 07, 2018 05:04AM
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I stayed in the 20 to 21 area. We have Gurley Goff Peters Joyner Cooks. We have to pay him a truck load. But we cannot mortgage the farm.

I have discussed this before but counting Donald the Rams can sign 5 of those 6, with Joyner probably being the man out. Which is okay with me because as much as I like Joyner, the Rams are great at finding DBs.

They can sign the 5 I named with room for 2-3 more.

As a rule teams spend 60% of their cap on 10 players but I think with Donald it can be 8.

The opposite of mortgaging the farm is having a nice looking cap without keeping your best players.




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Hey ZN

Old ButtHead here. I'm curious, as long as you went to the trouble to look up these stats do you know how many of perennial winners spend 60% of their cap on 10 players? Say NE, Pitt, Seattle, and so on? I don't want you to have to go back and do a lot of research, but if you still have notes or something that you can check real quick I'd be interested.

Thanks

I don't know any way to research old team caps. OverTheCap doesn't seem to archive to my knowledge. You pretty much are stuck with just total cap info from the year you're in. To do the kind of thing you ask, though, you would need a complete roster breakdown. Couldn't do that without the whole roster and cap numbers for every player and I don't know how to do that for previous years.

This is Pittsburgh for 2018. So far anyway (this could change a lot by week 1. I say am doing Pitt. before actually looking---I don't know in advance. So now I look. Right back, looking now. [overthecap.com] ...Okay back. The 2018 cap is 177.2 M. 60% of that is 106.3 M. Steelers top ten players come in (appx. and not exact) 107.7 M. Which I guess counts as "close enough" for the 60%. Their top 10 are Roethlisberger, Bell, Heyward, Haden, Pouncey, Shazier, A.Brown, Marcus Gilbert, Decastro, and S.Truit. 5 of those are above 10 M, 5 are from 8+ M to 5+ M.

So that's one example.

For the Rams, with Donald, I think the logic is, if you have 2 guys over 20 M (Goff, Donald) then you have to do this exchange. You're swapping Donald for at least 2 guys. You then do the 60% for 7-8 guys total. The question then becomes, is one generational player in Donald worth say 2 10 M players. Intuitively, I say yes, but analysis backs that too. According to a recent study inside pressure is at a premium in today's game because teams counter the outside rush by throwing quickly. The counter-counter to that is a strong inside rush. Donald led all interior linemen in percentage of plays where he faced multiple blockers, but still led the entire NFL in qb pressures last year. That is how the Rams got to be 4th in sacks and 4th in sack percentage in spite of basically having no rushers outside last year (with Quinn being subpar most of the season). They set things up around Donald. If the Rams ever get a good 8+ sacks a year outside rusher, they ought to be devastating. And on that, it's harder to find a generational elite DT than it is to find an 8+ sack outside rusher (there were 32 players last year who met that definition).

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