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Steve
ZN: you wroteIn terms of being wrong about Tavon, you already are. His own record, and that includes game tape and stats, shows you can use him more in the passing gam,e than McV did. It's just a fact. That's just a matter of the record.

Tavon never beat a #1 corner more than once in a game---in 5 years. Not counting 5 yd bubbles; Tavon is not dependable 60 snaps a game, nor maybe 12 snaps a game. For $750K and a few splash plays a year, he is worth the money for sure!! As the #6 WR who comes in and does some stuff, he is not worth much---even as a punt returner McVay didn't want him. He is not where he should be 100% of the time, and that is why the 'record' of tape is mostly worthless--yes, worthless....the Rams were awful and needed someone, and Tavon did some stuff on tape---that is for 12 year kids to gawk at---not adults. When the Rams got professional WRs, then Tavon was not even on the field as a WR. Being wrong isn't always fun-as Fish found out; McVay saw Tavon's inability to 'find' the detail in the route....and that is not permissable. Dak Prescott who scrambles and makes time may find some limited success with Austin---maybe. Tavon had 5 years to prove it, and he couldn't.

If we could 'bet' on Tavon's 2018 stats, I would. But, I am sure that is against board policy....so take that up in private. anytime.

My thing is to look at what Tavon actually was, and, he wasn't a pure receiver and so you didnt' expect him to perform as one.

But it's not either/or--either he;s a receiver or he's nothing. (And yes he beat corners one on one, watch the vid I provided...and in fact he was less effective against zones).

There was plenty he could and did do in the passing game. I posted the vid which shows play after play (talking about anything where he is a receiver beyond the LOS). The stats back it. Defenses feared him for a reason or he would never been an effective decoy too, and he was an effective decoy.

BUT you had to know what Tavon could do and set it up. Which is precisely what I keep saying McV was not interested in doing. It would have meant tweaking his system to build in Tavon plays and that's what I always thought McV would not do.

All your criticisms would apply if the issue was assessing Tavon only and exclusively as a regular receiver, and I never thought he WAS that, and I was saying that before they drafted him.

It;s like a lot of people look at Tavon this way: he barks, he walks on all 4s, he wags his tail, he is covered in fur, he has a snout and pants a lot--which means HE'S NOT A DUCK BUT HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A DUCK. I always just said, he's not a duck, don't expect to use him as one.

He has 141 receptions from 2014-16, 55% of them are beyond the LOS (representing 762 yards and 4 TDs), a lot of the biggest plays are (again) in the vid I posted...so you could use him in the receiving game, cause they did. BUT (once more) McV was just not interested in tweaking things to do that. He just plugged WRs in that fit his Washington offensive mold and went with that.

Here;'s the vid I keep referring to:





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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/23/2018 10:26PM by zn.