February 09, 2018 10:35AM
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waterfield
It's too late now-precisely because of the record .And since that's the only thing we have to go on-and there could be many reasons why they have won-including the draft choices of Snead we really don't know if McVay is any good at all. Could be he really sucks ! Maybe he is WAY WAY over his head ! Maybe the league is laughing at the little kid ! So-the only thing we can judge McVay on is THE RECORD. The only person who could really evaluate his coaching abilities is Tommie Delaware-and he's no longer with us.

Well, I'll grant you its very hard for the average fan (me) to really evaluate a coach OUTSIDE of the 'record' thing. (thats why i keep asking questions about it)

There are so many complexities. Take Joe Gibbs for example. A hall of fame coach in his first stint with Wash. Then the second stint...what was he? A mediocre coach (based on the record)? How did THAT happen. How does a hall of fame coach become mediocre in a matter of years. Did he forget how to be a great coach?

Or Tom Landry. Hall of fame coach for a while. And then...couldnt even get a winning season. Did he forget how to be great?

I dunno

The interplay between Personnel decisions and Coaching X's and O's is tricky. I mean give any good coach the GSOT personnel and they probly win the Ring. But DV is the guy that built the Personnel package, so he was a great Personnel guy and X's and O's guy. Or was he? He needed Martz for the X's and O's didnt he. And he needed Armey for Personnel. And round and round it goes.

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  The Legacy of Jeff Fisher: Controversial, Complex...and Not Yet Fully Written

RamsFanSince69743February 07, 2018 02:09PM

  Outstanding read...

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  Re: Outstanding read...

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  Re: Was Jeff one Left Tackle short of success?

leafnose346February 07, 2018 04:24PM

  I dunno, lots of issues

Blue and Gold284February 07, 2018 04:29PM

  Wait a minute

waterfield189February 11, 2018 09:33AM

  provided Fisher had nothing to do with the offense

Rams_81206February 07, 2018 04:30PM

  Re: Was Jeff one Left Tackle short of success?

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  Re: Was Jeff one Left Tackle short of success?

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  Zero Accountability

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  Re: Zero Accountability

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  Maybe one LOT and one Offensive Coordinator (nm)

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  No sure if I'm supposed to feel sympathy for Fisher - cause I don't

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  I'm sure Fisher is a great guy to be around

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Speed_Kills259February 07, 2018 04:11PM

  there are a bunch of words here and some excuses

Rams_81217February 07, 2018 04:28PM

  nah......

IowaRam274February 07, 2018 04:31PM

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  Re: The Legacy of Jeff Fisher: Controversial, Complex...and Not Yet Fully Written

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  credibility and could-have-beens with Fisher

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  What makes Mcv better than fisher?

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  Re: What makes Mcv better than fisher?

waterfield223February 08, 2018 07:40PM

  DV, Fisher, Gibbs, i dunno

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  Re: DV, Fisher, Gibbs, i dunno

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