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January 24, 2018 07:34AM
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You rarely if ever see the evidence for anything outside your own domain.

Therefore it's not a criteria for the rest of us. cool smiley

Basically what you're saying is, I have no idea what I think I am looking for, but, prove to me it doesn't exist.

Which would entail making public something illegal which shows the offensive and defensive signals of various teams, which is not supposed to be public.

McDaniels had a tape too, it showed a SF walk through before the Denver/SF London game.

Prove to me that;s all it was.

Can't? Good. I don;t care.

cool smiley

When you destroy evidence that does not mean that what happened did not happen.

And just because we were never privy to the evidence that doesn't mean we can ignore it and draw an accurate conclusion. On the contrary, it means you are drawing any one of a number of conclusions that will just as likely be wrong.

In other words, we are all guessing. And no one persons guess is any better than another's. I am not presumptuous enough to believe I know everything that happened here without looking at the evidence.

No it's more like people often leap to that kind of conclusion for no good reason.

For one thing those tapes outside the NFL offices are not "evidence," they're just tapes.

Inside the league office they are evidence of a league's internal rule violations, the rule in question being the one that prohibits teams from taping offensive and defensive signals. (Though interestingly, stealing signals is itself not against the rules. Just doing it via videotaping).

Now once you've proven that, you're done.

Besides the fact that no one ever suggests some realistic scenario where something else could be on those tapes (the coaches smoking pot?) there's this

the tapes themselves are illegal, meaning their very existence is illegal according to league rules
they contain confidential info (signals) that is not supposed to be public

So you want them to preserve illegal tapes, the very existence of which is illegal, in order to publicly disseminate confidential info.

Right.

All in search of....no one can even name anything plausible.

Sorry, it's just clearly a conspiracy theoryl

Anyway make all your PMs from this board public to prove you said nothing that broke the law. When you do that I will listen to your conspiracy theories about why illegal tapes of confidential info should be public.

This, you know, is just going to keep going in the same circle.

So you can repeat yourself if you want but I am done doing it.

I don't buy the "evidence was destroyed" conspiracy theories because they make no sense. You do. It's an impasse. Time to agree to disagree.

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  Seriously. I am SO tired of the Patriots

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  Re: Seriously. I am SO tired of the Patriots

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  I pray not

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  me toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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  Re: Seriously. I am SO tired of the Patriots

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  Did some digging tonight.....Martz / Goodell / Spygate

Ramgator339January 21, 2018 03:06PM

  I feel your pain

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  Re: Did some digging tonight.....Martz / Goodell / Spygate

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  Re: Did some digging tonight.....Martz / Goodell / Spygate

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  NFL riding out a decision made 17 years ago?

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  One penalty entire game. ONE.

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  I was convinced the refs would invent a rule to disallow the Pats 4th quarter fumble

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  Re: Did some digging tonight.....Martz / Goodell / Spygate

Ram49286January 21, 2018 05:27PM

  Personally......

NewMexicoRam440January 21, 2018 06:05PM

  +1000 nm

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  I knew it............. I bought a car today

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  Lots of admiration and envy...

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  NO admiration OR envy...

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  Great post

Speedball89219January 22, 2018 02:03PM

  Re: IMHO.....Where there is smoke, there is fire.

oldschoolramfan213January 23, 2018 01:23PM

  Whatever. nm

jemach218January 23, 2018 06:13AM

  Amen Brother

RamsDynasty244January 24, 2018 07:24AM

  Re: Lots of admiration and envy...

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  Re: Lots of admiration and envy...

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  Re: Lots of admiration and envy...

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Ramsdude197January 23, 2018 02:21PM

  that is not what happened

zn272January 23, 2018 05:35PM

  Re: that is not what happened

Speedball89470January 23, 2018 06:22PM

  Re: that is not what happened

Speedball89200January 24, 2018 04:02AM

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  Re: that is not what happened

Speedball89185January 24, 2018 11:57AM

  Re: that is not what happened

Ramsdude201January 24, 2018 12:03PM

  so why burn the tapes

Rams_81245January 23, 2018 09:13PM

  Re: so why burn the tapes

zn245January 23, 2018 10:14PM

  Naw

max258January 24, 2018 01:11AM

  that just makes zero sense

zn257January 24, 2018 01:45AM

  something that we never saw

max231January 24, 2018 06:03AM

  Re: something that we never saw

Ramsdude247January 24, 2018 06:21AM

  Yup. Makes perfect sense to me.

max249January 24, 2018 06:43AM

  and never will in any situation like this

zn259January 24, 2018 06:47AM

  Re: and never will in any situation like this

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  Re: and never will in any situation like this

max236January 24, 2018 07:24AM

  going nowhere...

zn244January 24, 2018 07:34AM