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I am simply being honest about what I saw

November 13, 2017 10:22AM
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RamFanEsq
Seems like you quoted part of my post, thereby changing its emphasis, then said "I agree" (or was I not supposed to notice that?)

The NFL rulebook defines holding in terms of acts that "materially restrict" the opponent's movement. That's where degree and a bit of subjectivity comes into the picture.

In the end, as you noted, the Rams may have "gotten away" with a grab that could have been called holding on the Woods' TD, and were subjected to a questionable call that took away Ogletree's TD. So, if you feel the need to play the shoulda/coulda game, its a wash.

Given that it was a 23 point win, I really don't see this an important issue.

and you don't have to agree. No one suggests (I never did) that it had a big impact on the game. I specifically noted that there were bad calls that helped/hurt both teams. I think it's fact.

No one is playing the "shoulda/coulda game". I am not. It's pretty simple, the was a pretty blatant hold and it wasn't called.

All this others stuff I don't care about. It's not part of some greater thesis that Rams didn't earn the win or anything else. It's just pretty clear that it was a non-called holding and when you watch it in real time Clowney is impeded. I have enough honer tendencies, but I am not going to lie and say it wasn't holding when it was.
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  Rewatched Woods long TD and Watkins TD

CROMWELL21802November 13, 2017 07:54AM

  You're 100% correct

RFIP364November 13, 2017 08:14AM

  Re: Sean Hill

Speed_Kills278November 13, 2017 08:31AM

  Re: Sean Hill

RFIP380November 13, 2017 09:29AM

  Wanted the Rams to draft him...

moklerman196November 13, 2017 09:35AM

  Good to see you back, RFIP...

Rams43237November 13, 2017 08:43AM

  Re: Good to see you back, RFIP...

RFIP349November 13, 2017 09:30AM

  I thought of you yesterday at the game

Los Angeles Lenny195November 13, 2017 09:20AM

  LOL, now THAT'S funny

RFIP191November 13, 2017 09:32AM

  Re: LOL, now THAT'S funny

Los Angeles Lenny165November 13, 2017 09:39AM

  Yeah, yeah...

RFIP159November 13, 2017 10:06AM

  Re: Rewatched Woods long TD (Hold on Havenstein)

den-the-coach281November 13, 2017 08:50AM

  No, he let go before the end zone

Blue and Gold263November 13, 2017 08:56AM

  The hold was not in the endzone

CROMWELL21203November 13, 2017 09:29AM

  I can honestly say I don't care...

RamFanEsq183November 13, 2017 09:03AM

  No one is putting an asterisk on it, no one can

Blue and Gold199November 13, 2017 09:18AM

  Just went back and watched it again...

RamFanEsq197November 13, 2017 09:29AM

  I agree

Blue and Gold207November 13, 2017 09:50AM

  Did you?

RamFanEsq190November 13, 2017 10:16AM

  I am simply being honest about what I saw

Blue and Gold225November 13, 2017 10:22AM

  Yes, its your honest OPINION

RamFanEsq179November 13, 2017 10:25AM

  Why are you SCREAMING?

Blue and Gold165November 13, 2017 10:28AM

  LOL (that's not screaming either)

RamFanEsq145November 13, 2017 10:31AM

  Uh-huh

Blue and Gold164November 13, 2017 10:35AM

  I don't do it for Rams or other teams either

BumRap175November 13, 2017 10:32AM

  Do you know how many times I see blatant holds not get called?

max177November 13, 2017 10:27AM

  That's all fine, but doesn't make it accurate

Blue and Gold170November 13, 2017 10:30AM

  Re: I can honestly say I don't care...

Rampage2K-202November 13, 2017 09:26AM

  Re: I can honestly say I don't care...

moklerman175November 13, 2017 09:30AM

  Re: I can honestly say I don't care...Ditto that

BumRap160November 13, 2017 10:20AM

  I never look for penalties after the fact

BumRap150November 13, 2017 10:16AM

  You get a Fonzie for that one... Attachments

RamFanEsq176November 13, 2017 10:18AM