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September 29, 2017 03:25PM
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Goff (and the offense, and the team) will not be as consistently good this year but that's fine. It's to be expected. People who said before the season that they will be up and down were probably right, though no one expected the "ups" to be as high as they were offensively

Goff to me already is the Rams franchise qb (note: to me "franchise qb" and "elite qb" are not the same concept).

He has very refined arm talent, and has demonstrated toughness all along going back to his first year art Cal.

But his ability to see, understand, and instantly respond to different defenses? That can only come with experience.
And right now no game is a big test. If they do well against Dallas it doesn't guarantee anything and if they do poorly against Dallas they still have time to rise again. And so on.
This year, to me, is about a talented qb getting seasoning and experience and maturing. I won't take the highs as exclusive evidence of where he's at any more than I will take any lows as "final evidence" of anything.

I won't be disappointed by 8-8 or proclaim that he is a mature veteran qb if they go 9-7. So while Goff HAS shown he has a tremendous amount of raw talent, this is still year 2 of a qb who started out far greener than most. Given all that if he ends up with more TDs than INTs and a qb rating in the 90s that will be better than anyone expected before the season. And frankly I think that's what will happen.

As for people who are tired of, or battlescarred from, the previous years of non-winning seasons (going back to at least 2007), believe me, I get where you are coming from. At the same time I personally don't feel that way though--cause this is different.
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Thats prettymuch how i process things.

Cept, i am one of the battlescarred, brain-damaged, walking-wounded, PTSD-ramfan-types,
who still cant quite believe the rams have a starting QB who can throw medium passes accurately.

I mean....there are medium passes being thrown. And caught. ...i think. Maybe. Its possible its all a hallucination.

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It's true that Goff's numbers on the medium range passes are very good. On top of it that's the team strength. The team strength, not just offensive strength. Big plays thrown in the 11-25 yard range.

I can;t do the numbers on that because espn splits are always a game behind.

BUT there's another metric from a different source.

Big play passes over 25 yards. (This stat doesn't distinguish between in the air v. YAC yardage).

On that stat, Goff is presently second to Brady, with 10 in 3 games. Brady is first with 12. There are only 3 qbs with double digits---Brady, Goff, and Rodgers (also with 10).

In fact there are only 7 qbs with more than 6 of those.


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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/29/2017 03:28PM by zn.
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  Goff - 3rd highest rated QB in NFL

Rampage2K-1087September 26, 2017 11:25AM

  Re: Goff - 3rd highest rated QB in NFL

Steve330September 26, 2017 11:31AM

  Re: Goff - 3rd highest rated QB in NFL

Rampage2K-344September 26, 2017 11:44AM

  Re: Goff - 3rd highest rated QB in NFL

Anonymous User335September 26, 2017 11:48AM

  Re: Goff - 3rd highest rated QB in NFL

Rampage2K-333September 26, 2017 11:55AM

  Re: Goff - 3rd highest rated QB in NFL

73Ram335September 26, 2017 12:02PM

  I'm not sure how he could have been more diplomatic

RamUK330September 28, 2017 07:14AM

  totally agree

max275September 28, 2017 07:24AM

  I'm really nervous ...

RFL392September 26, 2017 11:51AM

  Yup. McVay said last night, "it's a small sample size"

max472September 26, 2017 11:57AM

  Re: Yup. McVay said last night, "it's a small sample size"

LMU93410September 26, 2017 02:06PM

  Re: I'm really nervous ...

Rampage2K-318September 26, 2017 11:59AM

  Yes, for anyone who claimed ...

RFL307September 26, 2017 12:07PM

  Re: I seriously don't remember anyone calling him a bust

Speed_Kills278September 26, 2017 12:10PM

  Re: I'm really nervous ...

Classicalwit272September 26, 2017 03:05PM

  If we are 6-2 or 5-3 at midseason

Blue and Gold289September 26, 2017 12:01PM

  Re: If we are 6-2 or 5-3 at midseason

Steve261September 29, 2017 02:11AM

  I have been basically saying this today

Speed_Kills316September 26, 2017 12:02PM

  Re: I have been basically saying this today

73Ram319September 26, 2017 12:06PM

  Re: dude if the Rams beat the Cowboys

Speed_Kills303September 26, 2017 12:08PM

  Re: dude if the Rams beat the Cowboys

73Ram325September 26, 2017 12:19PM

  Good point!

RFL392September 26, 2017 12:08PM

  Re: yup nm

Speed_Kills249September 26, 2017 12:16PM

  Re: Good point!

73Ram282September 26, 2017 12:20PM

  Same here....

JamesJM263September 26, 2017 12:22PM

  Re: I'm really nervous ...

bigjimram21281September 27, 2017 07:22AM

  Re: I'm really nervous ...

Steve297September 27, 2017 09:43PM

  Gurley exemplifies that

RamUK275September 28, 2017 07:18AM

  this will go up and down and it doesn't bother me if it does

zn386September 26, 2017 03:30PM

  Totally agree.....

GlacieRam324September 26, 2017 03:47PM

  Re: Really nice post ZN

RamsFanSinceLA269September 27, 2017 06:50AM

  ZN-ism on big games

Steve431September 27, 2017 11:19PM

  Re: ZN-ism on big games

zn284September 28, 2017 03:24AM

  Re: ZN-ism on big games

Steve269September 28, 2017 04:01AM

  Re: ZN-ism on big games

zn263September 28, 2017 11:54AM

  yup, agreed, zn.....

SunTzu_vs_Camus299September 28, 2017 07:08AM

  You're right, of course.

Saguaro286September 28, 2017 09:55AM

  Just remember Foles...

FootballGenius302September 28, 2017 07:16AM

  Re: he did... I don't remember that

Speed_Kills440September 28, 2017 08:40AM

  Re: he did... I don't remember that

FootballGenius277September 28, 2017 08:56AM

  well...disagree

zn292September 28, 2017 11:22AM

  Quarterbacks underachieve with Fisher

Rams_81334September 30, 2017 08:33AM

  Thats a good take...

max269September 28, 2017 07:17AM

  brain damaged fans

wv ram404September 28, 2017 01:43PM

  Re: brain damaged fans

zn286September 29, 2017 03:25PM

  Goff hasn't proved anything yet

six2stack329September 26, 2017 04:11PM

  Re: Goff hasn't proved anything yet

zn317September 27, 2017 08:54PM

  Things just keep getting worse for Fisher

Speed_Kills364September 26, 2017 04:15PM

  Re: Fisher

leafnose376September 28, 2017 07:24AM

  Re: yup true was just referring to the offense

Speed_Kills275September 28, 2017 08:41AM

  Someday, I hope that...

Saguaro629September 28, 2017 09:44AM

  LOL, we aren't there yet?

JamesJM406September 28, 2017 09:47AM

  Re: Goff - Just keep playing

BumRap271September 30, 2017 09:12PM