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Re: Precisely RFL...NM

August 09, 2017 11:25AM
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RFL
They are question marks. They COULD go either way. There are indicators that point toward capability.

I think the original post was in essence correct. I think I would say that several of these guys COULD WELL BE weapons rather than decisively claiming it. (I doubt Tavon will ever be a real weapon.) But what I read in the post is something I agree with.

Teams can be very productive and successful with capable guys who are not obvious, transcendent talents. Good OCs can effectively use good but not great players as weapons. Look at what NE did with Amendola.

I despair of the league-wide conversation about WRs. For the 137th time, you don't have to have a speed-burner to "take the top off" a defense. Effective "vertical" passing games DO NOT have to bomb away with 35 yard throws. Throw effectively and consistently from 10 to 20 yards, and you will distress a defense and, as Kupp (I think) put it recently, set it up to burn it. You DO NOT need world class speedster WRs for this.

You do need guys who read defenses, run routes, and catch the ball. Woods already does this. Kupp certainly looks as though he can. To look at those 2 guys and try to say we can't "go vertical" because we lack the burner is, IMO, ridiculous. Kupp may not be what we hope, but it won't be because he isn't fast enough to run past DBs.

The general point opening the thread is spot on. Far too many pundits want to decide what a unit can do on the basis of possession of Top 5 talent. But good OCs and DCs every year get great production from capable guys. There is so much a good OC can do with solid pros, not necessarily superstars, at WR/TE, QB, and OL, and even, these days, sub-standard RBs.

I am a little less certain about most of our "weapons," but to me the spirit of the post is spot on.



Best,
Laram
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  I disagree with Vinny and some fans.....

laram2088August 08, 2017 05:17PM

  Well said.. very well said...

JamesJM483August 08, 2017 05:24PM

  Re:Take a look at this Jimmy..

laram534August 09, 2017 04:43AM

  Too much youth at wr imo

RFIP503August 08, 2017 05:33PM

  Some WR's are born old...

JamesJM702August 08, 2017 05:36PM

  Re:Look around the league..

laram445August 08, 2017 05:43PM

  You might want to tell that to...

RFIP642August 09, 2017 02:05AM

  I agree with Vinnie

droopy450August 08, 2017 06:12PM

  We got 1 guy who runs under 4.5 and he can't run routes

max630August 09, 2017 04:06AM

  The 2016 Patriots

RamFanEsq387August 09, 2017 04:16AM

  X factor

RFIP384August 09, 2017 04:25AM

  Yup. All we need is GOAT QB and we're fine

max782August 09, 2017 04:30AM

  Titans

RamFanEsq350August 09, 2017 05:08AM

  Re: I disagree with Vinny and some fans.....

Rams43388August 08, 2017 06:13PM

  Re: No doubt about it

merlin450August 08, 2017 06:56PM

  I hope so

NewMexicoRam359August 08, 2017 07:02PM

  Whoever you are, stop hacking laram's login!

Saguaro396August 08, 2017 07:13PM

  Re: Whoever you are, stop hacking laram's login!

Rampage2K-371August 08, 2017 07:42PM

  Re: Yeah...

dzrams372August 08, 2017 08:13PM

  Re: The style and outlook of the team has also changed...NM

laram313August 09, 2017 04:27AM

  Well, I always said...

Saguaro526August 09, 2017 05:15AM

  I agree

zn387August 08, 2017 08:13PM

  Re: I agree

Killrazor398August 09, 2017 12:59AM

  Re: I agree

zn405August 09, 2017 01:15AM

  Offense has tremendously underachieved

Rams_81380August 09, 2017 01:43AM

  Yep. The offense has some pieces, but it also had some under Fisher

RockRam586August 09, 2017 02:25AM

  NE

RFIP863August 09, 2017 02:30AM

  Yeah, well, certainly so on the QB.....not on the TE

RockRam397August 09, 2017 02:42AM

  It's not even debatable

RFIP358August 09, 2017 03:00AM

  Re: NE

Rams43362August 09, 2017 05:10AM

  I concur

RFIP429August 09, 2017 05:17AM

  Re: if Goff...

Speed_Kills370August 09, 2017 02:42AM

  its all relative though.....

wv ram447August 09, 2017 02:48AM

  Now THAT is a good question.

RockRam504August 09, 2017 03:04AM

  Re: its all relative though.....

max379August 09, 2017 04:47AM

  Re: its all relative though? well yes and no

zn464August 09, 2017 09:16AM

  The Rams should have had 4 more wins......

Crazylegs439August 09, 2017 03:54AM

  Yes but

RFIP452August 09, 2017 04:03AM

  Rams need "chain movers that can extend drives"

LMU93435August 09, 2017 04:48AM

  great point nm

21Dog362August 09, 2017 05:20AM

  Re: Rams need "chain movers that can extend drives"

CraigMatson612August 09, 2017 08:48AM

  None of the "weapons" you listed are proven quantities.

rambleon384August 09, 2017 08:11AM

  All of these weapons have huge question marks

TonyHunter87650August 09, 2017 10:06AM

  True. But I think that's the point.

RFL564August 09, 2017 10:50AM

  Re: Precisely RFL...NM

laram376August 09, 2017 11:25AM

  pundit-ocracy

wv ram430August 09, 2017 12:27PM

  That, too!

RFL415August 09, 2017 12:34PM

  Re: True. But I think that's the point. Double "Ditto" RFL

Anonymous User514August 09, 2017 02:27PM

  Yes they are weapons

no name368August 09, 2017 02:10PM

  interesting analogy nm

21Dog346August 09, 2017 03:17PM

  Re: I disagree with Vinny and some fans.....

Classicalwit391August 09, 2017 04:40PM

  Re: I disagree with Vinny and some fans.....

zn371August 09, 2017 05:11PM

  I disagree with Vinny and some fans.. "weapons" Bump

Anonymous User423November 14, 2017 05:28PM