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Re: Here was my criteria in answering the question.

June 19, 2017 03:24PM
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Saguaro
1. In this football era, which would be better to have, a probowl LOT, or a probowl DT?

2. The Donald pick was a good one, but not even the Rams must have known he would be this good or he would have been picked sooner. Therefore, there was an element of luck in that pick. Lucking into a gem in the middle of the first round is really nice, but does not negate the wrong call on the #2.

3. You've got to get the #2 overall pick right, or it really hurts you. Although the GRob pick wasn't considered a bad pick at the time, there were concerns, a debate on the "safer" pick of Matthews, and it was known that he would be a project. I agree with those who say you don't pick projects at that draft level.

So I voted in the small minority - Yes, it does.

On the other hand, not even a competent or star LOT would have been able to save the Fisher offense.

But when Whitworth is soon done, the Rams will still be looking for that left tackle.

I have an opposite viewpoint. A HOF caliber player far outweighs anything else for me. But the rationale for your yes vote is solid and warrants a response.

1. In this football era, I’d argue that a probowl DT is more valuable than a probowl LT. And I believe the NFL decision makers feel the same. Why? Follow the money. A few weeks ago, I posted average salaries for each position. DTs were 3rd after QBs and Edge Defenders. NFL GMs are choosing to compensate pass rushers more than pass protectors. That should tell you something.

2. Not necessarily. The logic doesn’t follow and it may be unfair to the Rams scouts. Every NFL teams doesn’t have the same opinion on picks. Dave TE Thomas said prior to the draft that in a few years when we look back Donald may be the best player from this draft. If a routine scout could make that prediction, who’s to say the Rams scouts didn’t feel the same way? In fact, they did say after the draft that they had him ranked in their top 5 players. (IIRC, it was also reported that they had Zach Martin ranked in their top 8.)

3. I agree on not drafting projects that high. I hated the GRob pick precisely for that reason. The fact they drafted a project LT that was extremely raw in pass protection - which is the primary job function of a LT – was asinine IMO. But ultimately that error is forgivable because of the draft philosophy that year that led to drafting them both. They were swinging for the fences. GRob and Donald were considered extremely high upside players and they both had some risk to them. I understand that home run hitters strike out a lot. A HR more than offsets a strikeout.

I appreciate the dialog though.
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  In terms of draft success, does GRob busting outweigh Donald’s success?

dzrams1108June 15, 2017 07:17AM

  Re: In terms of draft success, does GRob busting outweigh Donald’s success?

Rams43377June 15, 2017 07:31AM

  Exactly - not. even. close.

Suh-weet!316June 17, 2017 11:50AM

  Re: In terms of draft success, does GRob busting outweigh Donald’s success?

AlbaNY_Ram385June 15, 2017 07:40AM

  Re: In terms of draft success, does GRob busting outweigh Donald’s success?

RamsFanSinceLA334June 15, 2017 08:04AM

  posters don't understand the question.

max369June 15, 2017 08:07AM

  Re: posters don't understand the question.

dzrams365June 15, 2017 08:46AM

  you think its simple. but others misread it. nm

max295June 17, 2017 08:25AM

  Re: you think its simple. but others misread it. nm

CraigMatson402June 17, 2017 09:07AM

  I think just a decent player would have been a good result at #2.

max338June 17, 2017 09:16AM

  Re: I think just a decent player would have been a good result at #2.

CraigMatson371June 17, 2017 09:26AM

  Re: posters don't understand the question.

CraigMatson251June 17, 2017 07:43AM

  Re: posters don't understand the question.

dzrams312June 19, 2017 03:03PM

  Re: In terms of draft success, does GRob busting outweigh Donald’s success?

govane315June 15, 2017 08:10AM

  Yes

FootballGenius515June 15, 2017 08:14AM

  Re: In terms of draft success, does GRob busting outweigh Donald’s success?

zn338June 17, 2017 05:41AM

  Here was my criteria in answering the question.

Saguaro354June 17, 2017 05:56AM

  Re: Here was my criteria in answering the question.

dzrams400June 19, 2017 03:24PM

  Thanks, dz. I enjoyed it.

Saguaro283June 19, 2017 05:44PM

  Re: That is a skewed perception IMO...

laram278June 20, 2017 04:38AM

  Re: The numbers don't back that...

dzrams417June 20, 2017 08:59AM

  Re: The numbers don't back that...

zn314June 20, 2017 09:08AM

  Re: I would arrive at that conclusion as well..

laram323June 20, 2017 09:39AM

  Re: I would arrive at that conclusion as well..

zn316June 20, 2017 11:11AM

  Re: I would arrive at that conclusion as well..

laram314June 20, 2017 11:15AM

  Re: I would arrive at that conclusion as well..

zn304June 20, 2017 11:19AM

  thats a good post dz

LesBaker286June 20, 2017 02:40PM

  This is a nonsensical question

LesBaker388June 17, 2017 06:03AM

  As of now, 38 people...

L.A.Rams344June 17, 2017 06:30AM

  Re: As of now, 38 people out of 1,565 Registered Users

Ramadune436June 17, 2017 09:00AM

  As of now 61 votes

L.A.Rams411June 17, 2017 05:49PM

  Re: This is a nonsensical question - Agreed

Ramadune415June 17, 2017 09:02AM

  Lol, Les.

Saguaro321June 17, 2017 01:56PM

  But

LesBaker312June 17, 2017 03:17PM

  Yep, that's how I think most respondents see it.

Saguaro368June 17, 2017 05:40PM

  Re: In terms of draft success, does GRob busting outweigh Donald’s success?

CraigMatson326June 17, 2017 07:17AM

  Re: In terms of draft success, does GRob busting outweigh Donald’s success?

BeachBoy360June 19, 2017 02:28AM

  The reason NO is the #2 pick

Rams_81473June 19, 2017 03:20AM

  Your reply is why I think the poll results may be inaccurate.

Saguaro451June 19, 2017 05:03AM

  Glad you pointed that out

Rams_81368June 19, 2017 09:14AM

  Guilty as charged

RamsFanSinceLA426June 19, 2017 12:14PM

  Re: Guilty as charged

Rams43316June 19, 2017 12:29PM

  Re: Guilty as charged

RamsFanSinceLA315June 19, 2017 01:29PM

  Re: The reason NO is the #2 pick

zn349June 19, 2017 05:29AM

  Re: The reason NO is the #2 pick

Rams43339June 19, 2017 07:28AM

  Did he touch the ball or rush the passer

Rams_81372June 19, 2017 09:12AM

  Re: Did he touch the ball or rush the passer

Rams43306June 19, 2017 09:43AM

  Re: Did he touch the ball or rush the passer

ramBRO467June 19, 2017 10:10AM

  Re: The reason NO is the #2 pick

Rampage2K-415June 19, 2017 10:11PM