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you're right about 2006

May 14, 2017 07:24AM
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. Armey had a big hand in 2006 too and as we know that was a disaster. Those 2 drafts combined yielded guys like Barron, Incognito, Terrell, Byrd, and Wroten---kind of a who;s who of Rams knuckleheads.

So IMO the real problem was that NEITHER Armey nor Martz was very good at drafting without Vermeil.

In terms of structure, in the Martz years Shaw gave Zygmunt, Armey, and Martz equal say and they had to vote to decide things. For a long stint there Martz and Zygment simply froze Armey out. But then as I said, when Armey got back in the driver's seat, he really wasn't any better than Martz.

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Jay Zygmunt had General Manager added to his title after the 2005 season, it was he and Scott Linehan (who Zgymunt wanted as Head Coach) that oversaw the disastrous 2006 draft. However, I agree that Armey and Martz were not as good with Dick Vermeil and IMO Vermeil does not get enough credit for being the straw that stirred the drink.

I stand corrected about 2006.

However, and this is just agreement within being nitpicky, that Vermeil did more than stir the drink when he was there. I basically see all the picks in his era as his (except Holt, as stated). So I think he was the drink. He had all those years watching college football from the booth, which contributed. He may just have been a better personnel guy than is generally acknowledged.

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  Tying some thoughts together

max997May 14, 2017 03:50AM

  Re: Tying some thoughts together

den-the-coach419May 14, 2017 05:03AM

  Re: Tying some thoughts together

zn382May 14, 2017 05:32AM

  Re: Armey was gone after 2005

den-the-coach369May 14, 2017 06:03AM

  you're right about 2006

zn282May 14, 2017 07:24AM

  lots to digest there, den

max248May 14, 2017 08:31AM

  Re: lots to digest there, den

Rams43301May 14, 2017 08:40AM

  Re: lots to digest there, den

den-the-coach331May 14, 2017 09:07AM

  ...and that's all I'm gonna say.

max252May 14, 2017 09:20AM

  Re: lots to digest there, den

zn268May 14, 2017 09:46AM

  correction

zn252May 14, 2017 11:46AM

  Re: Tying some thoughts together

Rams43326May 14, 2017 05:43AM

  Re: Tying some thoughts together

AlbaNY_Ram286May 14, 2017 06:32AM

  That's not drama, that's science fiction...

max229May 14, 2017 02:49PM

  Re: Tying some thoughts together

leafnose293May 14, 2017 06:28AM

  Re: I think it's an oversimplification

merlin296May 14, 2017 09:43AM