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Re: Austin does need to show he fits this offense

May 06, 2017 04:55AM
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GreatRamNTheSky
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LMU93
Austin has made his living for 4 years getting quick throws and trying to make something happen. For example, he has caught 43% (77) of his passes behind the line of scrimmage. 81% have been less than 10 yards downfield. And only 18 of his catches in 4 years have come when the Rams are in 2 or 3 TE formations.

We know (A) McVay wants to throw downfield and (B ) two TEs are probably going to be on the field 70% of the time. So can Tavon adapt- while also having better hands and running good routes downfield? I hope so. It's a tall order for a player like him though.

It will be a more varied offense under McVay and anyone who saw Tavon in college knows he can go downfield and catch the ball. ONLY FISHER DIDN'T KNOW THIS or his OCs.

Grits

Actually they did throw to Tavon downfield. They always have. Back when ESPN splits use to show attempts, not just receptions, you could even track the number of times they threw it to him deep (which I am counting for this discussion as 21 or more yards for deep throws). (Right now all ESPN splits can give you is receptions, not attempts, which is just not as useful).

The issue is how good he is at it. He does have some limitations...maybe he can break through those, maybe not, though I personally think he can't. It's not just size but you never see Tavon fight for the ball, catch anything outside a narrow radius, adjust to the ball in flight in any kind of advanced way, or show sophisticated route running techniques that tilt defenders and create separation on a regular basis. Etc. All that appears to me to be outside his normal skill package, though again maybe he can improve aspects of it. He can do a certain percentage of what he needs to do but I have seen a guy with a very definite ceiling when it comes to being a pure receiver.

Now can he do the DeSean Jackson role where he routinely threatens downfield? I personally doubt it. I think he needs to be given a variety of different kinds of plays that use him according to his real ceiling as a combined yardage guy who can do different things as a receiver and runner (and even decoy). Maybe he will surprise me and take a big leap forward when it comes to all that, but it hasn't happened yet.

And this is not a complaint about Tavon. I never thought he was a pure receiver type. I never had any expectation that he would be. I like how they used him in 2015 to do a variety of things within his combined yardage weapon role. Maybe McVay wants that, maybe not; maybe McVay is saying to himself, if I can't use him as a DeSean West then I can't use him.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/06/2017 04:58AM by zn.
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  Silva: May Finally Be the Year Rams Phase Out Austin

RamBill1181May 04, 2017 11:56AM

  Silva: Master of the obvious

max506May 04, 2017 12:07PM

  Re: Silva: Master of the obvious

RamBill567May 04, 2017 12:34PM

  Re: Silva: Master of the obvious

max482May 04, 2017 12:49PM

  Re: I doubt it

Speed_Kills463May 04, 2017 12:52PM

  Re: I doubt it, too.

max511May 04, 2017 01:17PM

  Better DUCK!!!

RFIP558May 04, 2017 02:51PM

  "Finally"?

RamsFanSinceLA474May 04, 2017 01:25PM

  That's how I see it. (nm)

JamesJM399May 04, 2017 01:30PM

  what do you mean by "gadget player"?

zn571May 04, 2017 01:57PM

  Hopefully McVay...

sstrams405May 04, 2017 02:43PM

  Re: Hopefully McVay...

zn446May 04, 2017 03:17PM

  Not buying it, zn...

sstrams485May 05, 2017 08:34AM

  Re: what do you mean by "gadget player"?

Old Goat409May 04, 2017 03:04PM

  Re: what do you mean by "gadget player"?

dzrams286May 05, 2017 10:43AM

  Re: what do you mean by "gadget player"?

PARAM399May 04, 2017 03:18PM

  Re: what do you mean by "gadget player"?

zn388May 04, 2017 03:23PM

  gotta use him like Sproles sometimes

ferragamo79387May 04, 2017 06:22PM

  Re: what do you mean by "gadget player"?

Classicalwit362May 05, 2017 03:59AM

  Re: what do you mean by "gadget player"?

zn292May 05, 2017 01:02PM

  Was he ever 'phased in?' nm

Ram49481May 04, 2017 04:13PM

  Re: Silva: May Finally Be the Year Rams Phase Out Austin

LA_Ram_#29365May 04, 2017 05:30PM

  In a heartbeat

Ram49332May 04, 2017 06:08PM

  he's year to year now

LMU93408May 05, 2017 03:20AM

  Austin situation a little different than Robinson

Rams_81402May 05, 2017 04:08AM

  Re: Austin situation a little different than Robinson

Classicalwit279May 05, 2017 04:51AM

  Salary Cap world makes overpaying undesirable

Rams_81340May 05, 2017 05:03AM

  I doubt this very much

GreatRamNTheSky381May 05, 2017 05:53AM

  Really?

TonyHunter87270May 06, 2017 02:26AM

  Re: Really?

GreatRamNTheSky291May 06, 2017 04:30AM

  So I take it that...

max278May 06, 2017 05:03AM

  So u would...

TonyHunter87361May 06, 2017 05:33AM

  Austin does need to show he fits this offense

LMU93308May 05, 2017 08:28AM

  Re: Austin does need to show he fits this offense

zn315May 05, 2017 03:02PM

  Re: Austin does need to show he fits this offense

GreatRamNTheSky231May 06, 2017 04:33AM

  Re: Austin does need to show he fits this offense

zn428May 06, 2017 04:55AM

  Interesting thing about Silva and others like him...

max388May 05, 2017 08:52AM