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Agree. But stats show the higher the pick the MORE it is right.

April 25, 2017 06:19AM
I understand what is being said.

But the stats are (and I'm doing this from memory) that it is around 70% of 1st round picks become starters. 50% of 2nd rounders. 25% of 3rd rounders. 15% of 4th rounders. And from the 5th on it gets REALLY ugly (single digits).

So........this theory that the MORE draft picks the better (even if they are 4th round and later) doesn't work.

The best chance to get it right is the higher picks. The notion, for instance, that three 4th round picks of 15% each somehow gives you a 45% chance when combined is not so. Otherwise, it would mean it would be close to even to trade a 2nd for three 4ths and you'd have an approximately equal chance of getting a starter.

That completely ignores one of the rules of statistics that is called "Equally likely outcome".

For example. If there were 10 Lottery tickets and I bought 1, I have a 10% chance of winning. If I bought 3, I'd have a 30% chance. If I bought all 10 I'd have a 100% chance. That is because there is a definite amount of possibilities and outcomes (10).

However in the NFL draft, that is not the case. Because if it was, then having two 2nd round picks means you have a 100% chance of getting a starter ( two times 50%), which we know is not true (especially if you are a Ram fan!). That is because of the principle of "Equally likely outcome" in a non-definite pool of possibilities. And there is NOT a definite pool of equal possibilities in a player draft and even more the human variables are large.

The reality is that EVERY pick carries the same statistical percentage chance within the same range of picks. It does NOT improve your chances to have multiple picks in the same range except in small nearly incalculable way. Each 4th round pick carries the same statistical chance; whatever improvement by having multiple picks within the same range (round) has a much smaller statistic variability than simply multiplying the odds times the number of opportunities.

However; if you have a GREAT evaluator of talent who statistically drafts better, then you will have a greater chance of hitting on a starter. If you have a POOR evaluator of talent who statistically drafts worse, then you will have a lesser chance of hitting on a starter. When you combine them and divide by the number of evaluators you get an average performance that isn't necessarily even a real number.

Bottom line: higher picks are always better and lower picks are always worse when it comes to odds. No matter how many of each you may have.
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  Engram at #37 is unlikely.......

Rampage2K-953April 24, 2017 01:47PM

  These TV draft gurus don't get it right very often.

RockRam438April 24, 2017 01:57PM

  Re: These TV draft gurus don't get it right very often.

bigjimram21275April 24, 2017 02:05PM

  Re: These TV draft gurus don't get it right very often.

Rampage2K-334April 24, 2017 02:14PM

  Who Does Get it Right?

RamBill307April 24, 2017 03:19PM

  This is some great information

PHDram439April 24, 2017 03:57PM

  Here are Casserly's Numbers

RamBill292April 24, 2017 04:15PM

  3rd and 4th round about same

Blue and Gold296April 24, 2017 04:17PM

  Re: 3rd and 4th round about same

RamBill327April 24, 2017 04:36PM

  Even more difficult...

PHDram240April 25, 2017 04:00AM

  Re: First Rounders lasting 4 years is a success......

oldschoolramfan322April 25, 2017 05:59AM

  I once did some numbers

zn352April 24, 2017 04:07PM

  Not sure what your number represents.

RockRam266April 25, 2017 06:27AM

  Re: Not sure what your number represents.

zn297April 25, 2017 04:16PM

  Agree. But stats show the higher the pick the MORE it is right.

RockRam210April 25, 2017 06:19AM

  It'll be close.

alyoshamucci315April 24, 2017 04:12PM

  Re: It'll be close.

LMU93372April 25, 2017 04:04AM

  Re: It'll be close......Agree.

oldschoolramfan242April 25, 2017 06:40AM

  Re: Dominik should know better

merlin295April 25, 2017 11:08AM

  Re: Dominik should know better

Rampage2K-318April 25, 2017 04:52PM

  Re: that would make more sense

merlin267April 25, 2017 06:34PM

  well I've soured on Shuster

reggae272April 25, 2017 04:26PM

  Re: Engram at #37 is unlikely.......

spamlord270April 27, 2017 02:58PM