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Re: So about 4-5 catches and 63 yards per game = Star?

March 12, 2017 12:07AM
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Flipper336
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zn

I AM going there.

By my definition the #1 WR has to be consistently productive enough to get you both 70 catches and 1000 yards. "#1" is not "elite"--you can have guys who come through as #1 WR types who are not elite, it happens all the time.

And it doesn't matter how they do it, where they line up, their style or body type or skill set. Just this--if you use the guy to best advantage and set him up to use his strengths, can he be a #1 WR? On Woods I say yes. He is capable of that. Can he be a Garcon, Edelman, Baldwin, or Tate? Not talking body type, talent set, or where he lines up, how he is used—just talking about a certain level of reliable production that you can count on consistently.

Yes he can be that, I think it's clear he can be that.

So mostly we agree here.

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So about 4-5 catches and 63 yards per game = Star?

Ehhh, I disagree

There are a lot of ways to view this. But to answer your question, no I don't think 4-5 + 63 = a star. That does however equal the basic level of production for a solid consistent #1 WR by my definition, which is based on production. If you look at the top 12 passing teams in the league, they all have a guy like that. If you just look at the top 12 OFFENSES in the league (not simply passing offenses), only 2 did not have a guy who met that minimal standard last year...but in both cases (Dallas and Buffalo) they were at the bottom of the league in passing attempts (Dallas 30th, Buffalo 32nd).



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/12/2017 06:54AM by 73Ram.
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  I am confident that Woods will be a star WR for us

BumRap1276March 10, 2017 04:10PM

  Re: Man i just dont see it

Speed_Kills564March 11, 2017 03:10AM

  He won't be star but he will be a solid WR

Hazlet Hacksaw309March 11, 2017 03:41AM

  In the NFL ,it's all about winning

IowaRam280March 11, 2017 03:50AM

  Setting yourself up for disappointment

Flipper336455March 11, 2017 04:31AM

  Re: Setting yourself up for disappointment

max724March 11, 2017 04:40AM

  Re: Setting yourself up for disappointment

Rams43224March 11, 2017 08:22AM

  Yep. Think Amendola or Ricky Proehl

RockRam543March 11, 2017 04:53AM

  Re: Yep. Think Amendola or Ricky Proehl...Nope.

oldschoolramfan243March 11, 2017 08:04AM

  Re: Yep. Think Amendola or Ricky Proehl

RFL234March 11, 2017 08:20AM

  We sucked because we did not even have a #1 or #2 receiver

Rams_81830March 12, 2017 05:05PM

  Amendola is another overrated player

Rams_81241March 12, 2017 05:02PM

  Becoming a star takes opportunity

BumRap240March 11, 2017 07:23PM

  agree...

LMU93597March 13, 2017 03:26AM

  Woods CAN be a #1 WR type by my definition

zn291March 11, 2017 08:14AM

  self-correction

zn387March 12, 2017 12:13PM

  Re: If the Rams get good qb play..

laram302March 11, 2017 08:45AM

  Re: If the Rams get good qb play..

zn286March 11, 2017 09:04AM

  So about 4-5 catches and 63 yards per game = Star?

Flipper336268March 11, 2017 09:30AM

  Re: So about 4-5 catches and 63 yards per game = Star?

zn355March 12, 2017 12:07AM

  35 WRs basically hit your "WR #1" mark in 2016

Flipper336353March 12, 2017 06:48AM

  I have 23 and why not, the whole point is to list more

zn379March 12, 2017 07:30AM

  You can count out guys like DeAndre Hopkins at 78 and 954....

Flipper336199March 12, 2017 08:17AM

  Re: You can count out guys like DeAndre Hopkins at 78 and 954....

zn348March 12, 2017 09:03AM

  What is the benchmark then?

BumRap424March 12, 2017 07:34PM

  stats can do it

zn315March 12, 2017 07:37PM

  I'm of the opinion that stats cannot do it

Deadpool194March 13, 2017 08:42AM

  Re: Good post, question...

laram189March 13, 2017 09:01AM

  Re: Good question

Deadpool356March 13, 2017 04:40PM

  according to YOUR definition that is which is precisely what I am disagreeing with

zn288March 13, 2017 09:51AM

  I sometimes wonder if you read entire posts before responding to them

Deadpool191March 13, 2017 04:33PM

  #1 receiver for me is....

Flipper336305March 13, 2017 08:58AM

  I'm with you...

LMU93371March 13, 2017 07:02AM

  Re: I'm with you...

zn272March 13, 2017 10:08AM

  Re: So about 4-5 catches and 63 yards per game = Star?

IowaRam228March 12, 2017 03:00AM

  I am confident he's a

jemach249March 11, 2017 08:58AM

  Woods isn`t & wouldn`t be a star on any team...

PaulButcher59313March 11, 2017 09:47AM

  Re: Woods isn`t & wouldn`t be a star on any team...

Rams43254March 11, 2017 10:00AM

  my bet?.

zn278March 11, 2017 10:06AM

  Re: my bet?.

PaulButcher59263March 11, 2017 10:36AM

  Re: my bet?.

zn234March 11, 2017 11:44AM

  Other questions I had....

PaulButcher59253March 11, 2017 12:39PM

  Re: Other questions I had....

zn204March 11, 2017 12:48PM

  Don`t agree but fair enough..

PaulButcher59259March 11, 2017 01:07PM

  Re: Don`t agree but fair enough..

zn355March 11, 2017 01:15PM

  Re: my bet?. Ditto!

BumRap189March 12, 2017 07:24PM

  That's probably fair

9er8er342March 11, 2017 04:12PM

  +1 (nm)

zn247March 11, 2017 04:38PM

  I go by results...

PaulButcher59266March 11, 2017 04:56PM

  Anybody can do that

9er8er245March 12, 2017 08:08AM

  It's just as easy to speculate.....

PaulButcher59460March 12, 2017 01:25PM

  Well, that's pretty insulting

9er8er395March 12, 2017 03:00PM

  I`m just trying to stay on topic...

PaulButcher59332March 12, 2017 04:23PM

  His results are very average and that is a fact

Rams_81180March 12, 2017 04:54PM

  Re: Some valid points made there PB59

Anonymous User207March 12, 2017 05:04PM

  But you took us off it

9er8er210March 12, 2017 05:22PM

  So you think he is better than Britt

Rams_81250March 12, 2017 05:35PM

  I stayed on topic the whole time, lol...(NM)

PaulButcher59179March 13, 2017 06:53AM

  This is the "Kenny Britt" hope all over again...

jemach224March 12, 2017 04:20PM

  Re: This is the "Kenny Britt" hope all over again...

PaulButcher59205March 12, 2017 04:28PM

  Re: "Outside this board" lol

laram198March 12, 2017 04:43PM

  Well...I've been hearing that for years...

jemach199March 12, 2017 05:21PM

  Re: Maybe you, certainly not me...NM

laram265March 12, 2017 05:28PM

  Um...what?

9er8er211March 12, 2017 05:29PM

  Watkins averaged 1000 yards in his first 2 season

Rams_81248March 12, 2017 05:37PM

  Well

9er8er294March 12, 2017 06:49PM

  I think I agree with you

Rams_81265March 13, 2017 03:17AM

  He is nothing like Kenny Britt

9er8er326March 12, 2017 05:25PM

  "outside this board, the signing is viewed at best a D" -- actually that's not true

zn347March 12, 2017 07:33PM

  Re: That's probably fair_Very good accessment

BumRap349March 12, 2017 07:37PM

  Re: You have a better scout perspective but I will say this...

BumRap197March 12, 2017 07:02PM

  Re: Here is something nobody is considering IMO...

laram304March 12, 2017 10:01AM

  something nobody is considering IMO... "Mathology"

Anonymous User296March 12, 2017 10:34AM

  Um...I've considered it

9er8er224March 12, 2017 12:24PM

  Re: Um...I've considered it

laram239March 12, 2017 01:06PM

  Yeah this team needed an attitude adjustment

Hazlet Hacksaw203March 12, 2017 01:10PM

  Re: I am confident that Woods will be a star WR for us

six2stack369March 12, 2017 10:43AM

  Garcon for a comparison

zn266March 13, 2017 06:57AM

  83 catches and 979 yard average doesn't even meet YOUR minimums

Flipper336389March 13, 2017 08:54AM

  we're still talking past each other

zn436March 13, 2017 09:30AM

  Made up language does not = Spanish

Flipper336194March 13, 2017 11:22AM

  made up? lol

zn190March 13, 2017 11:31AM

  If it's a legit point of view it would hold up

Flipper336328March 13, 2017 11:44AM

  it does though -:)

zn795March 13, 2017 12:01PM

  Re: it does though -:)

Anonymous User361March 13, 2017 12:41PM

  Re: it does though -:)

zn300March 13, 2017 12:48PM