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PHDram
shaw suggested that DV interview Martz...While suggesting an interview is apparently not encouragement in your world, it is mine. I often suggest things to my kids as a way of encouraging them to do it. But feel free to have your own opinion.
and quite frankly im not sure you or I really "know" how that developed internally. im willing to accept that DV was not "forced" to hire Martz although i recall hearing rumblings that shaw was going to fire him if he didnt. But i dont know that to be true. Nevertheless, thats not really the point now is it?
The point is that DV was accused of running an out of date offense and went and found a new OC. Moreover he too had an UNPROVEN OC and QB coach. its almost the exact same situation that fisher finds himself now.
You have the time frame wrong.
DV fired Rhome long before meeting with Shaw.
Later Shaw and DV met to discuss the team. Shaw recommended Martz. DV was free to turn down that recommendation. DV interviewed 2 guys and was free to choose between them.
Even John Shaw was smart enough to know you don't push a coordinator on a head coach. If you are going to hold a coach accountable for the results he has to have a say in who he works with.
And yes we do know a LOT about how how that developed because it was all openly spoken about, at the time, as it happened. And I mean spoken about by the major figures involved, including Shaw.
And no, DV was never accused of running an "out of date offense." The problem in 98 was that the offense was just dysfunctional in general. The term "out of date" never came up back then. The terms were more likely to be "Rhome suxx," "Banks suxx," "can Bruce come back."
Remember, this was 99...long before people in 2016 were running around with the mistaken idea that a strong play action offense featuring the run to complement a defense was "out of date" (when it's actually the approach of several 2015 play-off teams.)
Plus no one at the time knew what kind of coordinator Martz was going to be ANYWAY. Turner, remember, was the coordinator for the Aikman/Smith offense...that's what he was known for at the time...and Martz was just Turner's qb coach in Washington. So no one had any advance idea that Martz would be that good, let alone that he would change the way offense was played. The idea as to whether Martz was "up to" or "out of" date just never came up. That was then. Just like westerns set in the 19th century don't include scenes involving microwaves, in early 99 no one was talking about Martz's "up to or out of" datedness.
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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 10/05/2016 08:01AM by zn.