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Re: How can you assure that?

September 23, 2016 02:58PM
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ArizonaRamFan
I don't even close to presume the motives of Kroenke,

I base that on his actions and his career. And remember I am a disinterested party...I've lived in both so.Cal and St. L but both were a long time ago. I have no dog in the fight. So I just call them as I see them.

But be even-handed. If you don't like motives statements, say the same thing to people who claim that he moved the team to right a wrong and restore the team to its rightful place (both are things I have seen said frequently). I suggest you're being selective about that kind of thing.

Everything I have seen of him over the years tells me that he has a very narrow range of motives for his actions, and it shows up in how he has acted with all his franchises, not just the Rams. That's what I see. I saw it before the move even came up. Nothing since has changed my mind.

AND you need to accept that I feel that way and am at the same time a diehard Rams fan. No one is going to talk anyone into anything here, and it is clear in each case how everyone feels. This sometimes leads to death match posting wars where some folks actually believe they can win a fight. I am not interested in that.

HOWEVER to me, being pro-team does not require me to be pro-owner. Those who get sensitive to criticism of ownership don't get much from me in return...I think people can just live with criticism of ownership since it's NOT the team. I said the same thing when the Rams moved to St.L and there were those in St.L who just did not want to hear any criticism of Georgia.

So that's my 2 cents. Twice now I have registered that I was not pro-owner (except I am glad both stayed and stay out of the football side of it) and twice now I have said I not only separate the team and ownership, I don;t have much in the way of energy for those who don't. I don't mean to give offense but then it shouldn't BE giving offense to see it like I see it.


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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/23/2016 03:06PM by zn.
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  Judge rules in favor of refund or tickets to PSL holders in St. Louis

leafnose856September 23, 2016 03:26AM

  I'm not a lawyer, but......

Rampage2K-407September 23, 2016 08:08AM

  No clause in the lease was broken

LesBaker437September 23, 2016 08:40AM

  I thought what triggered the out clause

Kind of Blue/Gold370September 23, 2016 11:31AM

  Re: I thought what triggered the out clause

Rampage2K-453September 23, 2016 11:36AM

  No they declined it isn't spin

LesBaker427September 23, 2016 11:54AM

  Re: No they declined it isn't spin

Rampage2K-402September 23, 2016 12:02PM

  Re: No they declined it isn't spin

zn402September 23, 2016 12:06PM

  Re: No they declined it isn't spin

Rampage2K-375September 23, 2016 12:12PM

  Re: No they declined it isn't spin

zn493September 23, 2016 12:17PM

  Re: No they declined it isn't spin

Rampage2K-493September 23, 2016 12:27PM

  Re: No they declined it isn't spin

zn388September 23, 2016 01:14PM

  Re: No they declined it isn't spin

waterfield383September 23, 2016 01:38PM

  Re: No they declined it isn't spin

Rampage2K-392September 23, 2016 02:23PM

  Re: No they declined it isn't spin

zn349September 23, 2016 02:42PM

  How can you assure that?

ArizonaRamFan366September 23, 2016 02:45PM

  Re: How can you assure that?

zn350September 23, 2016 02:58PM

  Re: How can you assure that?

waterfield372September 23, 2016 10:00PM

  Re: How can you assure that?

Rampage2K-372September 23, 2016 10:26PM

  Re: How can you assure that?

zn365September 24, 2016 03:13AM

  yes Rampage, there were guys on both sides of this move

ArizonaRamFan357September 23, 2016 02:42PM

  People have the right to their emotions

9er8er232September 25, 2016 08:27AM

  Re: People have the right to their emotions

Bud Frosty278September 25, 2016 08:38AM

  Re: No they declined it isn't spin

BobCarl356September 24, 2016 09:08PM

  Good post.

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  Re: Good post.

leafnose303September 24, 2016 09:17AM

  The contract stated that the sole remedy for Rams was relocation.

ArizonaRamFan387September 23, 2016 01:45PM

  Re: The contract stated that the sole remedy for Rams was relocation.

zn348September 23, 2016 02:02PM

  Re: No they declined it isn't spin

reggae368September 24, 2016 04:50PM

  It is 100% spin

9er8er258September 25, 2016 07:33AM

  Re: Judge rules in favor of refund or tickets to PSL holders in St. Louis

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  Re: Judge rules in favor of refund or tickets to PSL holders in St. Louis

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