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Weinke's convo with Goff

September 02, 2016 04:36PM
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You raise an interesting point, PHD. About what the coaches might be doing wrong, I mean.

This is kinda anecdotal, of course. But in a Hard Knocks scene I recall seeing Weinke speaking to Goff in their meeting room in a way that is probably best described as abusive. Maybe, just maybe, that might not be the best way to teach or motivate this particular kid. I dunno.

It was in episode 1. The episode shows Goff during practice flubbing some snaps then working with Kush trying to get it right.

Kush: Remember when you're coming in, smack the butt. That way I know you're ready to play football.
Weinke: Let's go. Can't have the ball on the ground. Let's go!
Flubbed snap.
Weinke: Get the snap up. Get it up, let's go!
Goff and Kush work together to get it right.
Weinke: Hey, he's gonna stick his knuckle in your a$$hole.
Kush: That's what I told him. Get in there!
Weinke: Let him feel it. Let him feel it. That's a little deep. Give him some more pressure. You're bringing it right up to where you feel the pressure.
Weinke observes the snap. "Pressure. There!"

Narrator: "No ifs ands or butts. Goff's fixed THAT problem, but there may be another." (Hard Knocks shows Goff throwing two picks during practice)
Goff speaks to the media afterwards and says there was some stuff he'd like to have back today. Scene cuts to a meeting room where Weinke speaks to Goff. Barrett Trotter, offensive assistant (who I call Mr. Man bun) -- is also in the room.

Weinke to Goff: Your expectation is up here. Ok, I know you're a rookie. I don't give a f-ck, to be honest with you..
Goff turns his head away and looks uncomfortable, like any kid would getting chewed out.
Weinke: Everybody's watching what you do. You can't f-ckin' hide. You can't. It ought to give you chills. Do you know how many teams there are in the NFL?
Goff: 32
Weinke: There's 32. Do you know how many starting quarterbacks there are?
Goff: 32
Weinke: There's 32 and you are wired to be the starting quarterback of this football team. But how does that happen? It doesn't just happen through osmosis and sayin' 'Hey, I'm number 16 and so I'm gonna start. That ain't f-ckin' happening, I'm gonna tell you that right now. It's up to you! Some people can't handle it. Some people can't handle the position that you play. They definitely can't handle the position that you're in.

I thought the questions Weinke asked Goff were downright condescending and stupid. Now, I know we're not privy to the entire conversation, however... there wasn't anything we did hear Weinke say here that I would call useful, positive, or productive. Wasn't Weinke a former drill sergeant in the Marines? That kind of talk may be perfectly fine for the Marine corps, but it may not work so well for a young football player in the NFL who is confused as heck.




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  If only that were possible...

max406September 02, 2016 03:57PM

  So what exactly are they doing wrong?

PHDram457September 02, 2016 12:46PM

  It's almost pointless right now

LesBaker462September 02, 2016 01:08PM

  right on, Les!

SunTzu_vs_Camus436September 03, 2016 04:27AM

  Thats how I feel Les

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  Some of these things are more than just narratives, though

9er8er395September 03, 2016 08:38AM

  One more...

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  Re: So what exactly are they doing wrong?

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PHDram478September 02, 2016 03:50PM

  Weinke's convo with Goff

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max524September 02, 2016 04:42PM

  i hope his feelings weren't hurt

PHDram552September 02, 2016 04:59PM

  Re: i hope his feelings weren't hurt

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  Re: i hope his feelings weren't hurt

PHDram405September 02, 2016 05:37PM

  lol. ok. i remember that.

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  Re: lol. ok. i remember that.

MamaRAMa430September 02, 2016 04:47PM

  100 percent no. nm

PHDram371September 02, 2016 04:56PM

  Re: lol. ok. i remember that.

zn389September 02, 2016 05:20PM

  you said it much better that I

PHDram373September 02, 2016 05:25PM

  Geez. I cannot believe how many don't get this!

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  Martz

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  Re: So what exactly are they doing wrong? Well 43

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  Re: So what exactly are they doing wrong? Well 43

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  He'll never be elite? Really?

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  you missed the word "may" nm

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  Re: He'll never be elite? Really?

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  If Goff turns out like Romo......

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  Re: Groh

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  Some very nice thoughts here, FLA...

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  The fundamental question remains

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  Re: The fundamental question remains

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  But he still didn't answer the question

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  I have some similar thoughts but am overall actually pleased

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