August 31, 2016 08:54AM
Your reminder is apt, and I'll just try here to make a point of distinction.

No one knows how Goff will work out. No one. Not the boosters. Not the skeptics.

So far, his performance has been mixed. He has shown flashes. He has shown that he is unready. Both sides have evidence to point to.

However, there is one level of criticism that I think can decisively dismissed. The idea that a great QB is defined by whether he is ready to start in Game #1 is simply absurd. NFL history is replete with examples of QBs who have grown into the position. You've named a great example. The QB Goff is often compared to, Joe Montana, did not start for 1.5 years, playing behind the great Steve DeBerg. Tom Brady didn't start until Bledsoe was hurt. On and On. I do not see how anyone can seriously argue that Goff's being unready is meaningful evidence of his limitations.

Now, it is just as illogical to simply assume that he WILL BE great when he adjusts. Again ... neither side knows how he will work out.

What we can do is look at what he is currently showing us. I am a believer that, 90% of the time, great players show you flashes early on. We can look at his current performance and ask, do we see flashes of great QBing?

Of course, different people will see that tough question differently. But, even there, I would ask Goff critics to recognize a distinction.

Most of the CURRENT criticism I see of Goff talks about how ... he isn't ready. OK. But saying that doesn't say much. If he still isn't ready next year or the year after, then it starts to matter. But right now, it's hard to plausibly argue that a rookie coming from a simplistic offense and struggling with the complexity of NFL O's and D's isn't simply adjusting to a very difficult league. I mean, maybe it's more than that. But I don't see how criticism of Goff processing things slowly can add up to much at this point. Holding on to the ball, for example. Is that a character trait in the player or simply the result of a player still figuring out the playbook and being used to playing in camp in a red, no-touch jersey?

I much prefer it when observers--boosters or critics--base their responses on observations of what he IS DOING. Does he have the arm? The accuracy? The basic ability to move his vision across the field? The footwork in the pocket? The quick release? That stuff.

Thing is, I have seen very, very few criticisms of Goof on these levels. I think that it is telling that his critics don't really seem to point to anything other than readiness and confusion.

Well, I like Goof a lot and have high hopes. But I can understand criticisms. I just ask critics to distinguish between readiness issues and indicators of the player's core capabilities.
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  Two words for the Goff skeptics

DomerRam1796August 30, 2016 10:24PM

  Re: Two words for the Goff skeptics

laram715August 31, 2016 03:44AM

  Re: Two words for the Goff skeptics

21Dog683August 31, 2016 04:13AM

  Hmmm, to be honest...

JamesJM569August 31, 2016 04:50AM

  Mentoring

MamaRAMa432August 31, 2016 04:28PM

  Re: Rodgers might be the best QB

Speed_Kills351September 01, 2016 03:34AM

  I don't think the comparison is about....

73Ram370September 01, 2016 03:39AM

  Re: ok

Speed_Kills401September 01, 2016 03:48AM

  Re: ok

73Ram327September 01, 2016 04:22AM

  Here are Rodger's 2005 stats, his rookie year

NewMexicoRam555August 31, 2016 05:17AM

  Yep. Every circumstance is different.

RockRam596August 31, 2016 05:49AM

  Rodgers was ready

9er8er397August 31, 2016 05:35PM

  If there are any "have patience with Robinson" complainers...

jemach478August 31, 2016 07:03AM

  Legit and dodgy critiques

RFL392August 31, 2016 08:54AM

  Ooopos. Goff ... not Goof.

RFL427August 31, 2016 08:56AM

  goof and spoof

wv ram444August 31, 2016 09:32AM

  I think that's a good way to put it...

JamesJM381August 31, 2016 09:58AM

  Re: I think that's a good way to put it...

zn470August 31, 2016 10:07AM

  Re: I think that's a good way to put it...

Rampage2K-403August 31, 2016 10:17AM

  Wow Throws...

JamesJM373August 31, 2016 10:29AM

  Re: Wow Throws...

Rampage2K-364August 31, 2016 10:33AM

  Good, I'm glad you have seen that....

JamesJM384August 31, 2016 10:20AM

  Re: Good, I'm glad you have seen that....

zn381August 31, 2016 10:30AM

  Re: Legit and dodgy critiques

kw13442August 31, 2016 10:15AM

  Re: Legit and dodgy critiques

zn398August 31, 2016 10:24AM

  Re: Legit and dodgy critiques

Rampage2K-566August 31, 2016 10:27AM

  Legit and dodgy critiques.. Dodgy Critques or Legit Speculation?

Anonymous User436August 31, 2016 03:07PM

  Re: Legit and dodgy critiques.. Dodgy Critques or Legit Speculation?

zn366August 31, 2016 03:15PM

  Re: Prescott

BigGame81439August 31, 2016 03:27PM

  Re: Prescott

zn398August 31, 2016 03:30PM

  Re: Prescott

BigGame81403August 31, 2016 03:32PM

  Re: Prescott

zn371August 31, 2016 03:46PM

  Re: Prescott

BigGame81369September 01, 2016 05:53AM

  Dodgy Critques or Legit Speculation?

Anonymous User283August 31, 2016 04:08PM

  Re: Dodgy Critques or Legit Speculation?

zn386August 31, 2016 07:43PM

  Rodgers/Favre not comparable at all

moklerman459August 31, 2016 10:52AM

  Re: Two words for the Goff skeptics

BobCarl348August 31, 2016 12:18PM

  Re: You lost me at the end...

laram381August 31, 2016 03:12PM

  Re: You lost me at the end...

BobCarl434September 01, 2016 04:58AM

  Re: What do you consider scrambling?...

laram307September 01, 2016 05:49AM

  Re: What do you consider scrambling?...

BobCarl373September 01, 2016 04:09PM

  the kid looks clueless right now

Speed_Kills397September 01, 2016 04:40PM

  Needs time

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