Re: Yep, $30 million Guaranteed

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Kind of Blue/Gold

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By contrast, Darren Sproles who is a similar type of player but better, signed a 2 year deal a couple years ago with $5.5M guaranteed and about 1/3 the average annual salary.

You seem confused about a few things:

1) The timeline. Yes, Sproles made less two years ago when he signed his contract than Austin will for a contract that goes into effect in two years. That is at least four years difference if you are counting.

2) Different position and status. Change of pace RBs tend to make less than starting WRs, in general.

3) Age disparity. Seriously? Sproles was not only a RB, but a THIRTY ONE YEAR OLD RB at the time he signed that contract (if in fact it was two years ago). The same age blind spot that prevented you from realizing Ginn was an inept example seems to be at work here. Why not just incoherently use the oldest players in the league at any random position and compare them to an ascendant 25 year old WR coming off a career best season?

You're right, maybe I'm confused because...

1) I figured people could do the simple math on the massive discrepancy in AAV of the their extensions without having to do it for them or explain that a few years of NFL wage inflation can't possibly come close to accounting for it. I apparently was wrong, at least in the case of one.

2) Starting WR not because he's a starting quality WR, but because he's a change of pace RB playing WR.

3) I obviously misjudged some people's ability to understand that the premise of paying a "change of pace" gadget player like a franchise WR because they scored 10 TD's is, well a premise of paying a change of pace gadget player like a franchise WR because they scored 10 TD's. It never occurred to me that since the change of pace gadget player in question was young and far less accomplished, some posters would think it was about something other than that. Confused as charged.

1) Why don't you come up with some examples from the 50s, I'm sure everybody is capable of calculating what they would be more than a half decade hence. Since it is so easy, what will a top 10 WR salary be in 2018? 2019? 2020? 2021? What will Austin's be in relation? Be specific, since as you say, it is so simple.

2) How many other change of pace RBs scored 10 TDs last year as a starting WR? Maybe bring in some long snapper, FB and guard contracts to further reinforce your confusion. Maybe something more lucid and intelligible than he isn't... because of course he isn't!

3) Echoing this line of thinking, I obviously misjudged your ability to understand the premise that comparing an ascendant player who is 24 to someone who is near the end of their career and 31 (twice now, with Ginn, too) is a terrible example because it is a terrible example. It never occurred to me that somebody would think their clumsy and ham-handed comparisons using grossly and blatantly irrelevant and misleading age discrepancies would be expected to be taken seriously, or anything other than what it is - a hatchet job with a dull, rusty blade.

* Could you expand on the "one-on-one basketball" theory that Austin represents a bad extension because he didn't singlehandedly put the team on his back and lead them to the Super Bowl. By your "rationale" (used loosely), because the offense wasn't better in 2015, Gurley must have been a bad pick?

Also, you seemed to have a real bee in your bonnet that it was reasonable to think Austin carries more injury risk (as usual, a case of your opinion masquerading as "reason" ). Show ANY data (not anecdotes) lending credence to the so far baseless and unwarranted assumption that bigger WRs get hurt less often than smaller WRs.



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 09/02/2016 06:35AM by Kind of Blue/Gold.