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Re: Crying to mama, refusing a medical, papa as quasi-agent, dots to connect?

March 04, 2024 09:00AM
Good catch, Les.

Refusing a medical is indeed a red flag - for whatever reason. Could this be simply to hide a medical condition, or gamesmanship? As we peel the onion, if gamesmanship, orchestrated by whom? And why? And with what results? Not a good look, at any level.

The fact the he refused it throws the door open for all sorts of speculation - and it's difficult to look past it much less say, "Oh, good for him!"

I can brush a quirk or two aside, but when those quirks might be indicative of underlying factors that might influence a hiring decision, I have to look closer.

I've done it both ways, and from both sides. I once made a bad hire based on a lot of "right" factors when there were a couple of slight and subtle indicators that I chose to overlook. Similarly, I once took a position that held all the promise in the world, working with people I knew and trusted, but for a CEO that I kinda felt uneasy about - despite their high praise. That move wound up costing me $30,000 out of pocket, before we consider zero earnings and career damage. And my colleagues got burned for more.

I've also made some good speculative hires - looked past the supposedly more qualified people to start the careers of promising youngsters ot take on a vet from outside the field that turned out to be exemplary high achievers.

Caleb is complex. Talent until it fairly screams and dazzles in the sunlight. But when we dispassionately strip that talent away and look at the persona being projected what do we see? For a lot of positions other than NFL quarterback you'd simply hire him, if his talent were in some other area.

Bottom line question: Does he appear as prime leadership material, which he must be - beyond being a good fit - in a "we not me" culture?

Thanks for the dialogue. I always value your point of view.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Is something going on with Caleb Williams?

DaJudge902March 01, 2024 02:28PM

  Heard a LOT of chatter about him on local Sports Radio

Ramgator255March 01, 2024 02:44PM

  "Wash your shower shoes"

alyoshamucci227March 01, 2024 03:00PM

  Remember all the pre draft bs on Stroud?

den-the-coach198March 01, 2024 03:39PM

  Exactly right nm

Speed_Kills70March 02, 2024 03:12PM

  Re: Starting to act a bit DIVA?

mtramfan175March 01, 2024 07:47PM

  I agree, MT

NewMexicoRam97March 02, 2024 08:36AM

  Yep

Stafford999March 02, 2024 11:01AM

  Re: Yep

Ekern5590March 02, 2024 11:05AM

  Two Data Points

Ramadune218March 01, 2024 08:50PM

  First point was all over internet

ferragamo79107March 02, 2024 02:36PM

  Re: First point was all over internet

Ramadune102March 02, 2024 03:25PM

  Sorry you were like sharing special information

ferragamo7998March 02, 2024 03:44PM

  Thanks all...

DaJudge122March 02, 2024 08:04AM

  a lot of people chasing ghost re Caleb

Speed_Kills84March 03, 2024 08:13AM

  He's a pretty decent QB but not good enough to be making demands.

Ramgator67March 03, 2024 09:15AM

  Re: a lot of people chasing ghost re Caleb

Headslap7570March 03, 2024 01:53PM

  Re: a lot of people chasing ghost re Caleb

ramBRO50March 03, 2024 02:36PM

  nice post

Speed_Kills78March 04, 2024 04:28AM

  My only issue with Caleb Williams

BigGame8164March 04, 2024 04:38AM

  Re: My only issue with Caleb Williams

ramBRO52March 04, 2024 07:36AM

  Skipping the medical portion of the combine is not a "ghost"

LesBaker58March 05, 2024 10:24AM

  again why are you thinking the worst?

Speed_Kills62March 05, 2024 10:35AM

  Because I question his motive that's thinking the worst?

LesBaker43March 05, 2024 12:13PM

  conspiracy theory I saw is that dad are trying to get him to drop

JimYoungblood5394March 03, 2024 12:21PM

  I have seen this movie before

Stafford979March 03, 2024 12:32PM

  Re: I have seen this movie before

mtramfan79March 03, 2024 01:40PM

  Why do you think that

LesBaker68March 04, 2024 06:36AM

  Re: Crying to mama, refusing a medical, papa as quasi-agent, dots to connect?

mtramfan80March 04, 2024 09:00AM

  I understand BUT

LesBaker68March 05, 2024 09:44AM

  again

Speed_Kills64March 05, 2024 10:38AM

  They mentioned the same on our Local Sports Radio. Also.....

Ramgator38March 05, 2024 11:56AM

  They also said that Caleb and his Dad do need to step back just a tad.

Ramgator35March 05, 2024 11:59AM

  Re: They mentioned the same on our Local Sports Radio. Also.....

ramBRO47March 05, 2024 03:06PM

  My only gripe about williams

socalmab54March 05, 2024 10:45AM

  exactly

Speed_Kills67March 05, 2024 11:59AM

  If the Rams wanted him I guarantee that they would make a deal to get him

LesBaker42March 05, 2024 01:08PM

  A hard no for me

OhioRamsFan55March 05, 2024 10:11PM

  Re: Is something going on with Caleb Williams?

SeattleRam46March 05, 2024 10:46AM