Fine. We can agree to disagree. I will note for the record however that you refuse to answer either question. Whether a HC gets a 3rd chance or not has nothing to do with my questions. So I will assume that you too would have fired Fisher and I'll accept that you don't have any examples of .400 caliber coaches who kept their jobs after 5 years. We're not so far apart after all. B)by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
I haven't turned this into a death match...don't know why you would be mentioning that right now. I just asked two questions that I was hoping to get engagement on. It seems that you feel that Fisher is being unfairly demeaned and I see your arguments. But these two questions remain: 1) Would you have kept Fisher? 2) You like to ask for examples. Do you have any examples here where a Hby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
I'm not sure your two examples on sidelined coaches fit. From what I understand, Billick doesn't want to coach. He has a cushy broadcasting job. Phillips did indicate interest in coaching again and he may yet get hired again. People have been saying he's too old and might not get another job for a decade now. Three to four years from now, Phillips would be a good exhibit for your argument if he hby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotesstrams Cuz he hasn't done squat so far, imo... So 624 rushing yards, 159 receiving yards, and 5 TDs as part of a committee is nothing? For some reason I thought he did pretty well last year.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Quotezn QuoteLMU93 Jeff Fisher could make a bad team mediocre. He could also make a good team mediocre, but that wasn't exactly an issue for the Rams at the time. Even with Sam Bradford repeatedly getting injured, Fisher's Rams went 7-8-1, 7-9, 7-9, 6-10, and 7-9, all with DVOAs between -0.9% and 5.4%. It's a thundering run of basic competence and not much else." I didn't. Likeby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLMU93 "And then you have the 2012-2016 Jeff Fisher Rams and his 7-9 @#$%&—a substantial improvement that had to feel good for a while, until Rams fans realized there was no next step after reaching mediocrity... Jeff Fisher could make a bad team mediocre. He could also make a good team mediocre, but that wasn't exactly an issue for the Rams at the time. Even with Sam Bradford repeatby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn Quotedzrams QuoteBumRap Hummmmm. I have been challenged on this point. Many felt it was simple. Made it easy for QB. Now that Stafford is guy it's complicated. Ok. If they say so. Says a lot about how Matt is impacting this offense or does it? The part of your post I'm not understanding is how Stafford needing to learn the offense translates to it saying a lot about he is impacting theby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteBumRap Hummmmm. I have been challenged on this point. Many felt it was simple. Made it easy for QB. Now that Stafford is guy it's complicated. Ok. If they say so. Says a lot about how Matt is impacting this offense or does it? The part of your post I'm not understanding is how Stafford needing to learn the offense translates to it saying a lot about he is impacting the offense. I don't seeby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 ...odds are that number will regress back to the mean.... I doubt this. Whoever analyzed this forgot about the "Donald effect." Floyd hasn't changed as a pass rusher. He just has more opportunities playing with AD. The Rams knew what he was when they paid him. He wasn't paid because he's a top pass rusher. He was paid because per McVay and Staley he's one of the best aby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Absolutely none. They’ve already got Ramsey and Williams outside, ranked #1 and #10 respectively just today. And Rams have Long and Rochell waiting in the wings should DW depart next year. If Rams are inclined to splurge on a FA there are better positions to invest in than CB with Gilmore. Much, much better positions. Agreed. This article bases their possible interest oby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 ...and truth be told...he never absorbed the playbook to McVay's standards so he was limited to the few plays he could grasp where he was schemed for success. That's why he wasn't re signed. I'm wondering about this part. Is there any evidence that he never fully absorbed the playbook to McVay's standards? Any reports on that?by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSunTzu_vs_Camus where the Rams use their WRs as a group instead of having that one go-to WR. Even if we had JJones...I bet his stat numbers would be lower in the Rams offense due to that fact that we spread the ball around. Rams use a committee approach for RBs and WRs - which I like - as it causes more threats that a defense must account for. What comes first, the chicken or the eggby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLMU93 Yeah, who knows. Though I think financially among their 3 main 2022 UFAs (Williams, Corbett and SJD) Williams would obviously be the most difficult to retain. I think what the Rams are hoping is that they see enough development from Long and Rochelle to feel OK letting Williams go and recouping a 2023 4th round pick for him. If Williams has another great year, what are you thinkiby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn QuoteSunTzu_vs_Camus I have never seen such a "consistent" game wrecker in 40yrs of watching the NFL football. And to do that from the DT spot????........ is beyond incredible. Remember the "pay the man" debates? When many people q uestioned the value of giving a DT a contract worth something in the low 20 M range (which during those debates was sometimes mistakenby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteoldschoolramfan Just because GM's call and talk does not really mean anything. Snead just might be calling to see what the "Market Value" is for players on the Rams. (like woods) Remember, coaches and gm's might value their players much higher than the actual market value is. Down the road, it's great way to know what you can actually get for one of your players. I highlyby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuotePA48 As far as "opening up the entire playbook" there were some who believed it wasn't wide open last year mostly because of the OL and no deep threat. Quick throws in a horizontal attack. Who would know better than McVay on why the offense was stifled? Per Rodrigue, the one Wolford game opened Mcvay's eyes to the role the QB played in the offense being restricted. Moreover,by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteoldmanram He is in a better mood because he knows his offense has a lot more juice and will score more points to counter the amount of drop off his D may have with their F/A losses. Good balance. Saying it is a direct shot at Goff is just stirring up crap Agreed. This is how I see it. It's others who will take anything he or Goff says and interpret it as a negative towards the other.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn Quotedzrams Quotewaterfield Because it points out how many people are concerned about themselves and care nothing about others. It's the I'm on board so pull up the ladder that has gotten us into so much trouble. I.E. As long as I'm vaccinated and can't get sick I don't care about others. F--k em. Let them get vaccinated or not. I don't care. That's their freedom to decide. To me, thby dzrams - Bucky's Pub
I agree. I just wanted to point out that we live in a society where trust in our institutions is at an all time low. In this environment, it's even harder than usual to get people to act for the greater good and not just themselves.by dzrams - Bucky's Pub
Quotewaterfield Because it points out how many people are concerned about themselves and care nothing about others. It's the I'm on board so pull up the ladder that has gotten us into so much trouble. I.E. As long as I'm vaccinated and can't get sick I don't care about others. F--k em. Let them get vaccinated or not. I don't care. That's their freedom to decide. To me, that sums up a whole lby dzrams - Bucky's Pub
QuoteGolden Ram That's a precarious position to take by ownership of any business. While vax manufacturer's cannot be sued for injuries related to taking the vaccine private businesses can be sued. I don't think you will see any mandates from team owners. They will not risk being sued. Good point. But that's part of their cost/benefit analysis. If they're not willing to take that risk, they havby dzrams - Bucky's Pub
Quotemerlin If they don't want the vaccine let them get COVID when they get it. Now if they're going to be so PC that they want to cut off their nose to spite their face and play the "what if they get someone else sick" game then implement a rule that you get it or you don't play in 2021. Either way you're in a leadership position. Make the call and live with it. I believe thby dzrams - Bucky's Pub
Quotepromomasterj Because they're not vaccinated and have to go into protocols. Whatever you want to do to twist the data, the fact is - having most of your players inoculated is a competitive advantage. It's an advantage in training, and socializing, and coaching and being available on Sunday. The players get paid to prepare themselves each week as best they can, to be on the field and coby dzrams - Bucky's Pub
QuoteRockRam Newsom has openly stated that the State of Emergency is something he wishes to continue in California. He needs numbers to back him up. Under that order, he can continue to make one-man rule Executive Orders nearly without limitation (not my words, the LA Times). He has made over 50 orders so far. Newsome also openly stated last year when Covid first started, that they (political cby dzrams - Bucky's Pub
QuoteRockRam According to GB newspapers, Love has looked anything but the part of an NFL QB. The term they are using is "struggling". Yikes. I'll bet Rogers doesn't report until well into the season. If at all. And with old crusty football guys in charge of the team (no Billionaire owner that sees his team as a plaything) I doubt this standoff is going to end well.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRampage2K- Quotedzrams QuoteRampage2K- Not so sure it was McVay changing and adapting to defenses , it was more adapting to life without a dynamic back like Gurley and a loss of true speed on the outside. Yes, we can spin it other ways, but both 2019 and 2020 Goff and McVay were missing those key elements to what made this team so special in 2017-2018....For some reason, Goff get's most of tby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRampage2K- Not so sure it was McVay changing and adapting to defenses , it was more adapting to life without a dynamic back like Gurley and a loss of true speed on the outside. Yes, we can spin it other ways, but both 2019 and 2020 Goff and McVay were missing those key elements to what made this team so special in 2017-2018....For some reason, Goff get's most of the blame for the regressionby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotealyoshamucci As I do him getting the passer off his mark ... Many of his sacks were "assisted" and I expect more of that... What I want is for opposing QBs to be aware of his push and not just Aaron. If Lewis can be healthy we'll have a group that can collapse a pocket and shut down passing lanes ... I expect a dozen sacks. If Lewis stays healthy we could have 3 douby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
We disagree. How about we live with that?by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemoklerman Which is now the big question. Did McVay get figured out or did Goff? This is the relevant issue IMO. And I think both got figured out. McVay has been evolving and adapting but the Rams lost faith in Goff's ability to do the same.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com