QuoteRockRam Morris learning the nuances to the D is not the same as a less experienced coach learning them. Besides, we also shouldn't think that Staley's D was near perfection or that it was called to near perfection (my words). Point being, Morris brings a lot to the table.... while admitting that Staley was pretty innovating and it's hard to knock running the #1 D. Although he certainly hadby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteAlbaNY_Ram I agree 100% that McVay is not infallible and that he has made some questionable coaching hires. But to say that not promoting from within is an issue? Nah. I want him to hire the best guy for the job he's being hired for without regard to whether he will ever be promoted. Agreed on both points. McVay is not infallible and not promoting from within is not necessarily an isby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRockRam What happens if Goff plays pretty good (not great, just Andy Dalton adequate), and the team goes 7 - 10, and is sitting out of the money in the draft for a top tier QB coming out? Do they believe that if they increase O talent around him, Goff is enough? Do they re-up Goff and hope to gosh they're right for the next several years? Do they put a bunch of picks together and move up inby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLMU93 I thought Jourdan had reported that there would be much of the same defense remaining in the scheme and that there will be added wrinkles but very little straight cover 2 would be mixed in. Maybe I'm wrong but thought that was what she said maybe a month ago. Yes, this was reported several times by Jourdan and others. The plan is for Morris to run Staley's scheme with some of his wriby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteden-the-coach Good article and the Rams have drafted well, for not having first round picks, but some of those guys are gone now in Cooks & Goff. Overall, adding Ramsey was a no brainer and signing him long term, ensured the trade was worthy, but lost in this trading picks for high profile players is cost. First round picks in today's NFL is cheap labor, the Rams by trading for provenby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax ...Don't think anyone outside the Rams organization thinks so, and not sure the Rams do either... What makes you say this? I've heard some media football experts laud the Rams for their approach.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn It's amazing isn't it, what some analysts do. They want to look at qbs completely out of context. So for example Stafford's Lions had a good to decent defense 3 out of 12 years and the rest of the time it was a liability, and he had a decent enough running game 1 time in 12 years. That's not a formula for winning. (He also had crappy OLs much of the time though that's not true of the lastby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn So anyway I never make the argument that trading Goff is an act of impatience. ... I inaccurately summarized your "not that much better" as "wouldn't have been any better." My mistake. I agree with the above. Thanks for the clarification.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn QuoteNewMexicoRam The 70's Rams were great but they lacked that star QB. Perfect historical example of why McVay made a move. All of us can argue whether the Rams handled it well, but the bottom line was that McVay thought Goff wasn't going to bring to the table what was needed to get his team to the Super Bowl. I wish the 70's Rams could have done the same. Enh. He was impatient wby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteNewMexicoRam His handling of Goff, IMO, is a separate issue from whether he thought Goff could get the Rams back to another SB. Agreed on this. As you said above, if you don't think your QB is going to improve anymore, it's not impatience to move on.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quote“...Being comfortable next to the O-line in that world. It’s a whole different world in there...” .... This is interesting! It looks like they're giving a taste of in-line TE too.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn Quotedzrams Quotezn ...none of these options should be taken for granted as easy... .... Agreed. I don't feel any of the options should be taken for granted as easy including trading up for a 1st round pick. There are plenty of bust OTs even in the 1st round. Bottomline: replacing Whit won't be easy. Agreed it won't be easy. Here however is a ten year hit rate of LOTs drafteby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn Quotedzrams Quotezn Quotedzrams You're acting like I'm arguing with you; I didn't provide any arguments. Let me repeat: "Here is the raw data without interpretation." Which tells us nothing. Your period goes back to 2006, so, there are going to be some low rounders (after round 2) starting in the NFL. It's like I said about the Brady argument--haven't you heard guys say &qby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn ...none of these options should be taken for granted as easy... .... Agreed. I don't feel any of the options should be taken for granted as easy including trading up for a 1st round pick. There are plenty of bust OTs even in the 1st round. Bottomline: replacing Whit won't be easy.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn Quotedzrams You're acting like I'm arguing with you; I didn't provide any arguments. Let me repeat: "Here is the raw data without interpretation." Which tells us nothing. Your period goes back to 2006, so, there are going to be some low rounders (after round 2) starting in the NFL. It's like I said about the Brady argument--haven't you heard guys say "qbs are not so hby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Quotedzrams QuoteLMU93 Yeah. It can be done. But longer odds for sure. Whitworth, Bakhtari and Armstead are upper tier guys. Dawkins and Villaneuva are in the top half of LT in the league. I think the Rams could reasonably move up from the late 1st round to the late 40s overall. Trading the 3rd round comp. pick they get for Holmes plus a 5th could do that. To get higher than thatby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLMU93 Yeah. It can be done. But longer odds for sure. Whitworth, Bakhtari and Armstead are upper tier guys. Dawkins and Villaneuva are in the top half of LT in the league. I think the Rams could reasonably move up from the late 1st round to the late 40s overall. Trading the 3rd round comp. pick they get for Holmes plus a 5th could do that. To get higher than that is a steeper price- tradby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
You're acting like I'm arguing with you; I didn't provide any arguments. Let me repeat: "Here is the raw data without interpretation." I'm sure you're correct on your very narrow point of the odds being low of finding a hit after the 1st round. I already agreed with that above. I was providing this data to add to the discussion and because I was curious on exactly what percentage ofby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Here is the raw data without interpretation. All of these guys were the LOT starters in 2020 with the exception of Orlando Brown who is slated to be the starting LOT for KC this year. David Bakhtiari, LT (GB) - 4th round (#109) in 2013 Andrew Whitworth, LT (Rams) - 2nd round (#55) in 2006 Terron Armstead, LT (NO) - 3rd round (#75) in 2013 Charles Leno Jr., LT (WAS) - 7th round 2014 Doby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
I think you're being unnecessarily argumentative here especially when on part of my point, I was agreeing with you. I said it's hard to dispute your research. That's me agreeing with the validity of that particular point. I wasn't saying that no one is disputing that. In fact, that's me saying that anyone who disputes it is likely wrong. It feels like semantics on your "better than justby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn The odds of finding a viable, at least better than just average starting LOT low in the 2nd round are not good. Maybe it's a crazy draft and there really are so many decent LOT prospects, you can find one. But that's not the kind of thing you count on. Looking back at a 10 year period ending in 2019 and starting in 2010--how many tackles were picked in round 2 and how many madby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteroman18 some guys just don't mix right, or get it at 1 place...go somewhere else and "get it".....I don't think it would look bad on Sean at all, if he turns it around you can say that Sean "saw" the potential, just didn't mix well with us. I heard no issues when he was on board, he had injuries that nagged him, he showed up big in spots (KC Game of the Years) and floppeby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRam_Ruler And it confuses me so much lol not only is he a much better right tackle than he's giving credit for, but even if he were averaged to slightly below average, he's on an amazing team friendly deal. It's about cost of replacement. If he were average to slightly below average and someone like Bobby Evans could replace that same level of production on a rookie contract, why not thinkby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Actually I think Fisher did pretty well drafting and developing defensive players. He gets credit for much more than Donald. There is Brockers, Jenkins, Trumaine Johnson, Ogletree, Joyner, E.J. Gaines (5th round starter for several years), Maurice Alexander (4th round starter until scheme change), Rodney McLeod (UDFA above average starter who got big bucks in free agency), etc. If you goby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteAlbaNY_Ram "When he was taken in the third round after a trade-up he was looked at as the heir apparent to Todd Gurley.". I remember that differently. IIRC Henderson was seen as a change-of-pace back when he was drafted. Gurley was still the man when that draft took place and I don't recall anyone thinking that Hendo was drafted as the "heir apparent". There was a gby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
I get your perspective...but maybe it will still be relevant. Do you think Raheem will keep some of Staley's scheme?by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Quotezn QuoteSunTzu_vs_Camus and it works so long as the FO drafts mid round starters and can replenish the players that leave with serviceable to star replacements. Running a team this way seems like it could be every 5-7 yrs before the team needs a 1-3yr rebuild of talent/influx of high end talent again. But we are currently built to win for the next 3yrs and be highly, highly sby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn Quotedzrams So given your argument is he a mediocre, average, or better than average coach? Didn't manage to avoid that death match, hunh? And what is the thing with you being so at home in group pile-ons? Have you noticed you're generally the person lecturing others on not making things personal yet you're generally the one who starts making things personal. Asking why I'm at home inby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
So given your argument is he a mediocre, average, or better than average coach?by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn In terms of whether Fisher was mediocre, or average, or better than average, or any of that? I have never once said what my own view is. (And no one ever asks, they always assume.) ... Ha! I asked above. Your assessment on whether Fisher was mediocre, average, or better than average was the point of my question "would you have kept Fisher?"by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com