Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

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JamesJM
i think you miss my point... although you still disagree. You're all in on a rebirth at age 27-28. I don't think it happened that way at all.

I don't think it was a rebirth. Not at all. That's not what I was saying. I think it was growth from 22 to 27.

I think if somehow timelines got jiggled and the Rams #2 in 99 was the 24 year old Warner, he would not have been as mature and as ready as he actually was in the real timeline.

When you say "there is no question he developed" then we're saying the same thing. I just emphasize it more.

I don't think Kurt WAS Kurt at 24, not in terms of maturity and develipment, though obviously the seed was there already planted. I don't think he thinks he was ready or developed then either. That's a year after Green Bay training camp, which was a humbling experience.

He only started one year at Northern Iowa. He enter the league a bit behind. But he did develop and grow, no question, and Arena and Europe were part of it.

I DO think Goff has it in him to surpass Kurt in a lot of ways. I think the seed is there in him, too..